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Post by Action Ace on Feb 3, 2016 19:27:07 GMT -5
For a short time I was hoping Damian Wayne, Chris Kent and the West Twins were going to form a team.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 3, 2016 21:35:19 GMT -5
For a short time I was hoping Damian Wayne, Chris Kent and the West Twins were going to form a team. I'd buy that book.
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Post by Gene on Feb 3, 2016 22:41:43 GMT -5
I'll take back every bad thing I've said about this if means getting Yang away from Superman.
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Post by earl on Feb 4, 2016 1:33:20 GMT -5
Other rumor-the JSA is returning (yay) except they will be flash forwarded from the WWII era into the present at their young ages to operate in the current day but in their prime (WTF?) -M I love the JSA, I miss the JSA, I want them back. But this idea, to me, seems to totally defeat the point of the JSA. If they are no longer the veterans who started the whole thing in the 1940s, they might just as well be the JLA. Considering they got plenty of worlds and DC was saying that story was going to trump continuity, I don't get why they don't let it happen. I've said it on other threads but after reading Matt Wagner/Guy Davis and others take of Sandman Mystery Theatre that it would be awesome for DC to do a modern take on the original characters set in their original time. Batman '39 - Superman '39 - JSA '41...if you did it right you could do a whole "Hellboy" type self contained universe that could perhaps be evergreen sellers as you could eventually just end it when the story gets to a certain age. What's cool is if you did do that you could have the Huntress, Power Girl and adult Robin and set it in the mid/late 1960s as a sequel series. They are far too stupid to pull something like that off as even if they did start it and it was going well, they would end up ruining it by trying to hype it into something it's not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 1:36:58 GMT -5
The manga/cartoony criticism is suspect to me because the 90s were full of that too (Joey Mad, Humberto Ramos, Ringo on FF, the manga Ghost Rider run , etc. etc. and everyone was raving about it then. McFarlane's work seems to draw from some weird mesh of manga and cartoons, or at least that's the impression I got from his run on Spider-Man Drunken nightmares of half remembered box art from NES games
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 17:25:22 GMT -5
This is the first I have heard of a relaunch, but not surprising. I hope they do away with the N52 costumes and go back to the PRE-N52 ones. I just hope this relaunch is better planned out, otherwise what is the point?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 17:41:21 GMT -5
This is the first I have heard of a relaunch, but not surprising. I hope they do away with the N52 costumes and go back to the PRE-N52 ones. I just hope this relaunch is better planned out, otherwise what is the point? Sales bump. That's what it's always about. DC regained some marketshare in December with DKIII, but January rolls around and the numbers show Marvel has twice as much marketshare (in dollars and units) as DC did. The new52 gave DC marketshare when it launched that they have since lost through attrition. The relaunch is not fueled by quality concerns as much as a hope it will allow them to recapture the marketshare they have lost. Pretty much every decision by the big2 now is fueled by hopes of gaining sales spikes to get a bigger slice of pie in the direct market. It's 2 companies trying to be the biggest fish in a very small pond, but they will fight to the death for that pond rather than spend a dime on trying to find a bigger pond. -M
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 18:27:36 GMT -5
I wish DC would do what Marvel did and start an "Ultimate" type line of books. Make the line fan friendly, just 1 title per character, ONLY 1 bat book, 1 Superman book, 1 JLA book, etc. Get the best creative teams on each book. Also, no secondary characters like Robin, Nightwing, Supergirl, etc.(at least for the first 2 years), just the bare basics of everything. Make Batman darker (like in All-Star B&R), not friendly towards Superman & not a member of the JLA, more of a loner. This reboot that is planned sounds like business as usual, just tack on a new #1 for everything to boost sales SHORT TERM & most likely no improvement in quality.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2016 18:34:05 GMT -5
I realize this has nothing to do with the relaunch/reboot, but I wish DC would reprint facsimile issues of ALL those old 80 pg & 100 pg giants...those would be so fun to collect.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 6, 2016 19:31:15 GMT -5
Doing 80pg/100pg issues for all their books would be nice, especially considering how much regular books cost these days
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 14:47:25 GMT -5
Latest teasers on Twitter form DC regarding Rebirth... from Jim Lee... and then shortly afterwards from Geoff Johns.... which remains totally unconvinccing. Though I do think they should hire Arnold Schwarzenegger to do his Kidnergarted Cop line of "It's not a tumor" altered to say "It's not a reboot! -M
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Post by Action Ace on Feb 15, 2016 18:05:45 GMT -5
Is it good?
Will it have better sales?
Will I write less than five angry letters in June? (DC Comics division only)
Answer those questions Jim and Geoff!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Feb 15, 2016 19:10:31 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that if it wasn't for the fact that DC comics (like Marvel with Disney) wasn't simply a small part of an overall multimedia empire, that the likes of DiDio and Lee would probably have been fired by now. I feel the same with the Quesada Era guys that are still at Marvel. The constant stunts indicates that they're failing in the long-term. Granted, it's a more complex market now with trades and digital, but I doubt any of these guys would have lasted if their success was based on line growth and units sold as opposed to gaining and losing ground in the ever shrinking "marketshare" world they're clinging to.
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Post by Gene on Feb 15, 2016 19:32:40 GMT -5
At this point, I'm not convinced that they're relaunching from #1. Even though it's a small thing, I can't see them celebrating the New 52 with variants the month before they're supposed to scrap the line again. I'm willing to bet that we're getting new creative teams on the continuing books, cancellations for the low selling ones, and new books focusing on characters and ideas that can be expanded into other media.
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Post by hondobrode on Feb 16, 2016 19:11:56 GMT -5
I wish DC would do what Marvel did and start an "Ultimate" type line of books. Make the line fan friendly, just 1 title per character, ONLY 1 bat book, 1 Superman book, 1 JLA book, etc. Get the best creative teams on each book. Also, no secondary characters like Robin, Nightwing, Supergirl, etc.(at least for the first 2 years), just the bare basics of everything. Make Batman darker (like in All-Star B&R), not friendly towards Superman & not a member of the JLA, more of a loner. This reboot that is planned sounds like business as usual, just tack on a new #1 for everything to boost sales SHORT TERM & most likely no improvement in quality. I think the closest thing to that is DC's Earth-Two series of Superman, Batman, and soon to be Wonder Woman graphic novels.
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