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Post by Nowhere Man on May 19, 2016 0:13:27 GMT -5
If that's the case, that's on DC and their IP lawyers. When you come out with something first and fail to keep tight grip on your intellectual property, well, that just plan old incompetence I'm afraid. Stuff like this is very strange to me. You'd think the ubiquitous symbol of your publishing line would be one of the first things you'd take care of when it comes to IP. They misfiled the paperwork and the delay allowed the shoe company to get their paperwork in first and register their logo. For the last year that DC used the stars and swoops logo they started in 2005, they were paying a licensing fee to the shoe company to use the logo after they got a cease and desist letter on using the logo and were facing a lawsuit form the shoe company. It's why the switched to the peel back logo that was so different form anything else they had used before in 2011/2012. -M I hate this aspect of copyright/trademark law. If a company has had an established symbol/logo for decades, they should get every opportunity to shore up said trademark when the time comes. Some upstart shouldn't be able to swoop in and effectively steal a design. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 0:38:09 GMT -5
This is the DC shoes logo...  adopted when the company rebranded in 2011 from Droors Clothing (which it had been known by since it was founded in 1994) to DC Shoes focusing on the most successful part of their business i.e. footwear for skateboarding and snowboarding lines. The logo is used by competitors in those fields who are sponsored by the company so often seen in other media outlets and probably better known than DC comics to a mass audience of the 18-49 demographic which is the key sales demographic in most businesses. So not an upstart company, one that had been around a decade and a half putting out a logo that fits well within the area of business they do (Converse had long used a star in footwear sales and the Nike swoosh is a giant in logo branding. If anything DC was treading on their territory when designing the 32005 star and swoosh motion logo trying to find something that appealed to the young hip 18-49 demographic and then the WB legal department fumbled the ball. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 20, 2016 3:27:32 GMT -5
My only complaint was regarding the 1976 bullet logo. I'm actually surprised that DC comics didn't pull some maneuvering and attempt to sue when they changed their logo and started using DC. I'm going to take a guess and say that claiming dibs on an abbreviation is harder to do legally than, say, Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 10:31:37 GMT -5
My only complaint was regarding the 1976 bullet logo. I'm actually surprised that DC comics didn't pull some maneuvering and attempt to sue when they changed their logo and started using DC. I'm going to take a guess and say that claiming dibs on an abbreviation is harder to do legally than, say, Marvel. Well they would probably be trumped on the use of that abbreviation by the District of Columbia, who was using it a lot longer than National Periodicals was... -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 20, 2016 10:46:40 GMT -5
My only complaint was regarding the 1976 bullet logo. I'm actually surprised that DC comics didn't pull some maneuvering and attempt to sue when they changed their logo and started using DC. I'm going to take a guess and say that claiming dibs on an abbreviation is harder to do legally than, say, Marvel. Well they would probably be trumped on the use of that abbreviation by the District of Columbia, who was using it a lot longer than National Periodicals was... -M Believe me, that came to mind, but I was under the impression that a state/national capital was beyond the scope of copyright/trademark law. |
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Post by Icctrombone on May 20, 2016 12:19:30 GMT -5
I called my LCS and asked them to reserve a Rebirth #1 for me. But at 80 pages for 2.99, I have to guess that It's 8 or 10 page teasers for their upcoming books.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 14:15:07 GMT -5
Well they would probably be trumped on the use of that abbreviation by the District of Columbia, who was using it a lot longer than National Periodicals was... -M Believe me, that came to mind, but I was under the impression that a state/national capital was beyond the scope of copyright/trademark law. Why would a government institution/entity be beyond the scope of the laws of the land? Non-profits have to abide by the same trademark/copyright rules and regs. All exemptions are specified within the laws themselves. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 20, 2016 14:43:26 GMT -5
So has there every been any conflict between Washington DC and a company wanting to use DC in their brand name? Granted, I know nothing of the legalities besides what I clean here or there, but the concept never crossed my mind. Are state names, city names, etc, actual trademarks or copyrights? Did Philadelphia Cream Cheese need to get Philadelphia's consent first?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 15:07:26 GMT -5
So has there every been any conflict between Washington DC and a company wanting to use DC in their brand name? Granted, I know nothing of the legalities besides what I clean here or there, but the concept never crossed my mind. Are state names, city names, etc, actual trademarks or copyrights? Did Philadelphia Cream Cheese need to get Philadelphia's consent first? The names themselves might not be but the presentation of the name with symbols, fonts, etc. can be trademarked. -M |
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Post by Action Ace on May 20, 2016 17:21:16 GMT -5
I called my LCS and asked them to reserve a Rebirth #1 for me. But at 80 pages for 2.99, I have to guess that It's 8 or 10 page teasers for their upcoming books. I figure it will be similar to the Countdown to Infinite Crisis Special. A major overall plot that leads to the EVENT THAT WILL BREAK THE INTERNET IN HALF!!!! With several subplots leading into upcoming books sprinkled in throughout. I imagine the events in Superman #52, Justice League #50 and Lois & Clark #8 will also tie in to the Special and lead us to the glorious new era. |
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Post by Gene on May 20, 2016 19:31:56 GMT -5
The spoilers for the special popped up online today. I haven't read them, but they're supposed to be pretty newsworthy.
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Post by Batflunkie on May 20, 2016 22:24:03 GMT -5
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 21, 2016 2:02:04 GMT -5
Wow, Alan Moore really hurt some feelings over at DC when he told it like it is, didn't he?  |
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Post by Batflunkie on May 21, 2016 2:18:45 GMT -5
Well, it does kind of make sense why "Before Watchmen" was a thing, though it still feels totally unnecessary in relation to the original. Like a sequel to a 20 plus year old movie that nobody wanted (i.e. Zoolander 2, Lady & The Tramp 2, Jingle All The Way 2, Kindergarden Cop 2)
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Post by Icctrombone on May 21, 2016 5:39:39 GMT -5
Whenever they decide to take something special and unique and merge it or alter it to conform with the normal and Mundane , I just shrug my shoulders. The original concept and stories are still intact and no one is going to enter my home and steal my 12 issue Watchmen comics. We'll always have Paris.
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