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Post by thwhtguardian on May 2, 2016 14:10:32 GMT -5
Did anyone honestly believe Jon was really dead for good?
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Post by Ozymandias on May 9, 2016 3:33:07 GMT -5
Well, his watch ended when he died, no matter how he comes back, he'll be free from his vow, and seeing how the majority of the "brothers" conduct themselves, good riddance. Another one down to the letter. I hope Sam doesn't end up being a MacGuffin, because he's already boring enough. I see they're having a nice young generation in the North, what with the Bolton bastard and the heirs to the Umbers and the Karstarks. All that trouble to teach Arya the Stick ways, to give her back her eyes. What a waste of (several) good poundings. So far, I've been rather unimpressed with the "best fighter he [Rickard or Eddard] ever saw". I miss some Achilles-level action, that and a labyrinth. |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 9, 2016 12:09:57 GMT -5
Another great episode last night. Does anyone else feel like this is one of the best seasons yet? Just loving every episode, and I feel they are building everything up to something epic.
Jon Snow has had his revenge, and as Ozy predicted, his watch has ended. Where is he going next?
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Post by Ozymandias on May 9, 2016 12:33:15 GMT -5
According to Melisandre's vision, he has to retake Winterfell. |
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Post by eltanin on May 10, 2016 17:16:06 GMT -5
Good episodes so far. No real surprises, though, Jon is back in the exact way everyone predicted.
I'm a bit bored by the High Sparrow storyline, though. The story itself is quite good, but in my opinion it's taking too long to reach a solution (one way or the other) and doesn't progress much.
I'm waiting for unexpected plot twists* in the future episodes.
I'm also interested in seeing more Greyjoy action.
*Not the one where they reveal Bran looking at Ned Stark finding baby Jon (and possibly baby Meera) in the tower. That's not really a plot twist anymore at this point.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 11, 2016 1:02:05 GMT -5
Bran looking at Ned Stark finding baby Jon (and possibly baby Meera) in the tower. Did I miss something, or is the last part a big spoiler, TV wise? |
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Post by tingramretro on May 11, 2016 1:35:12 GMT -5
A girl has spent about a year sitting around in the middle of nowhere occasionally getting beaten up by her teachers, or doing a bit of light housework.
A girl was made blind.
Now a girl is not blind anymore.
Is a girl ever going to do anything remotely useful or interesting again?
Because at this point, I think she was better off guest starring in Doctor Who.
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Post by eltanin on May 11, 2016 3:17:07 GMT -5
Bran looking at Ned Stark finding baby Jon (and possibly baby Meera) in the tower. Did I miss something, or is the last part a big spoiler, TV wise? About Jon, it's hardly a spoiler anymore. There are so many hints pointing in that direction that I would be very surprised if he wasn't in the tower. As for Meera, there are many people who believe she's Jon's sister. Honestly, I'm not sure why they would think that, except the fact they have the same age and the actress has curly hair like Jon's actor, which is probably enough to start this kind of theory. In the books, her physical appearance is described as quite different from Jon and the other Starks, so it's not like there are secret hints in the books, more like the opposite in my opinion. Until last episode, I used to dismiss this theory entirely, because I didn't see why Ned Stark would give one of his beloved sister's child to someone else. It didn't make sense to me: If he was taking Jon, why not taking the both of them? It's not like they would be safer being raised in separate places. But in the last episode, Ned and Meera's father arrive together at the tower. So it could be a hint that the theory is in fact correct. There are plenty of theories on the net: Jon secretly a Targaryen (that one I believe  ), Meera secretly a Targaryen, Tyrion secrely a Targaryen, Melisandre secretly a Targaryen... Basically any character in the show is secretly a Targaryen if you believe the internet, except Daenerys who is already a Targaryen I'm still not sure I believe in the Meera theory, but the presence of Meera's father in the tower scene last episode made me doubt. But it could also be a red herring put there on purpose by the creators of the show. |
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Post by Ozymandias on May 11, 2016 3:57:07 GMT -5
As for Meera, there are many people who believe she's Jon's sister. Honestly, I'm not sure why they would think that, except the fact they have the same age and the actress has curly hair like Jon's actor, which is probably enough to start this kind of theory. [...] But in the last episode, Ned and Meera's father arrive together at the tower. So it could be a hint that the theory is in fact correct. Yes, those two hints combined, point clearly in that direction. Just the curly hair was enough for me, they leaned heavily on that, trough Gorman's character. A girl has spent about a year sitting around in the middle of nowhere occasionally getting beaten up by her teachers, or doing a bit of light housework. A girl was made blind. Now a girl is not blind anymore. Is a girl ever going to do anything remotely useful or interesting again? Because at this point, I think she was better off guest starring in Doctor Who. This part of the story is worth mentioning. On the one hand, I also find it boring and would've opted for just skipping the training, but on the other hand, I find commendable how they managed to cover something so difficult. The whole deal of losing one's identity is so far fetched. |
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Post by eltanin on May 11, 2016 7:11:20 GMT -5
One of the things I am very curious about is Bran's ability to interact with the past. I have no idea how it will play out, but I'm sure it will be something important.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 11, 2016 9:11:34 GMT -5
Did I miss something, or is the last part a big spoiler, TV wise? As for Meera, there are many people who believe she's Jon's sister. Honestly, I'm not sure why they would think that, except the fact they have the same age and the actress has curly hair like Jon's actor, which is probably enough to start this kind of theory. In the books, her physical appearance is described as quite different from Jon and the other Starks, so it's not like there are secret hints in the books, more like the opposite in my opinion. Until last episode, I used to dismiss this theory entirely, because I didn't see why Ned Stark would give one of his beloved sister's child to someone else. It didn't make sense to me: If he was taking Jon, why not taking the both of them? It's not like they would be safer being raised in separate places. But in the last episode, Ned and Meera's father arrive together at the tower. So it could be a hint that the theory is in fact correct. Well... it's been known since A storm of swords that Howland Reed accompanied Ned to the tower and that the two men are the only ones who came out. Reed even saved Ned from Arthur Dayne. I don't think we need to read anything more in that than being true to the books. It's all well and nice for fans to come up with theories (isn't it a large part of what fandom is about?) but such theories must also make sense and bring something to the plot. As you say, it would be silly for Ned to send one of Lyanna's children away while keeping another.In fact, Ned was so keen about keeping Jon close at hand that he passed him as his bastard son, a heavy burden to bear for both individuals, instead of having him raised safely by someone else. Ned wouldn't have acted differently toward Jon's hypothetical twin sister. Meera being part of the family adds... what, exactly? It's not a surprising twist, it's not dramatic, it's just a complication. Dramatically, I think showing Howland Reed in that flashback scene is so we'll know who he is when it's time for the big revelation about what happened in the tower. (Because he's, like, the only person still alive who can testify)! |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 11, 2016 12:06:34 GMT -5
A girl has spent about a year sitting around in the middle of nowhere occasionally getting beaten up by her teachers, or doing a bit of light housework. A girl was made blind. Now a girl is not blind anymore. Is a girl ever going to do anything remotely useful or interesting again? Because at this point, I think she was better off guest starring in Doctor Who. A girl was a lot more fun with the Hound, that's for sure. I've enjoyed the Faceless God stuff though. It's intriguing to me. I like the way they are building all of the Stark characters up in different, unique ways. They have all come so far since Season 1, no doubt about that. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 15, 2016 12:47:06 GMT -5
Yeah, it's time to get things moving with Arya and Daenerys in particular. I still like the show a lot, but you can tell when they're padding thing just to make up the allotted number of episodes.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 16, 2016 4:24:14 GMT -5
I think she'll burn Vaes Dothrak to the ground. She's immune to fire, after all. It turned out to be close enough. She did use her "power", but not for revenge, rather as a means to get a bigger army. Yeah, it's time to get things moving with Arya and Daenerys in particular. I still like the show a lot, but you can tell when they're padding thing just to make up the allotted number of episodes. Considering all the stuff from the books they've left out, I don't think they're stalling. It's just a question of pace, you might find it slow, but at least, it's not Better Call Saul-slow. |
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 16, 2016 11:40:31 GMT -5
Wow, another amazing episode. This season is killing me, it's so fantastic. Ozy nails it with another prediction. Daenerys lit things up. Nice surprise to see Sansa show up at Castle Black. First Stark reunion in a good while. That letter from Ramsay was insane. The Lannister's plot to rescue Queen Margaery is a good one, hope it works. Once again next Sunday can't get here fast enough. In other news, great to hear that Jon Snow and his wildling Ygritte fell in love for real. Happy for them both!  |
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), Meera secretly a Targaryen, Tyrion secrely a Targaryen, Melisandre secretly a Targaryen... Basically any character in the show is secretly a Targaryen if you believe the internet, except Daenerys who is already a Targaryen 
