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Post by Bronze Age Brian on Apr 29, 2016 12:11:42 GMT -5
Game of Thrones is one of my favorite TV series (ever!). Now that Season 6 is finally here, some discussion is in order. Please don't check out this thread if you have yet to see any of the new episodes, as spoilers will occur.
First episode:
John Snow is dead. Or is he? Yeah, he's really dead. Will he become a White Walker? Will the Red Woman resurrect him? Or will he just stay dead? I have no idea, but I do have a feeling they are going to stretch his death out as much as possible. The fact that Melisandre removed her necklace to reveal she is an old (and we're talking very old) woman is telling.
Brienne coming in to rescue Sansa and declaring her sword to her was pretty awesome. If you've been watching the show, then you know this moment has been a long time coming. Well worth the wait.
Daenerys has been captured by the Dothraki. Oh Daenerys, what have you gotten yourself into this time? At least she can speak the language, and spare herself some suffering. But now the Dragons no longer have their mother. Uh oh.
This was a good first episode that reintroduced all of the characters well, and looking forward to how this season plays out.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 29, 2016 14:22:01 GMT -5
I haven't been watching (I'm happy with the books), and I've heard it's starting to deviate a bit. I remember feeling really confident after finishing the last book that they were going to have Jon survive by going into his wolf, then stealing someone evil's body. That'd also have the up side of getting him off the wall and into Winterfell if the plot wanted to go that way (the majority of internet fans I've talked to seem to think the book MUST end with Jon and Daenerys married and ruling Westeros)
Sansa is completely useless in the books, so I'm surprised she has some relevance.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 29, 2016 15:23:55 GMT -5
(the majority of internet fans I've talked to seem to think the book MUST end with Jon and Daenerys married and ruling Westeros) Well, I guess sleeping with one's aunt wouldn't be the worst case of incest in the series...
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Post by Ozymandias on Apr 30, 2016 0:59:24 GMT -5
Game of Thrones is one of my favorite TV series (ever!). Now that Season 6 is finally here, some discussion is in order. Please don't check out this thread if you have yet to see any of the new episodes, as spoilers will occur. John Snow is dead. Or is he? Yeah, he's really dead. Will he become a White Walker? Will the Red Woman resurrect him? Or will he just stay dead? I have no idea, but I do have a feeling they are going to stretch his death out as much as possible. The fact that Melisandre removed her necklace to reveal she is an old (and we're talking very old) woman is telling.
Brienne coming in to rescue Sansa and declaring her sword to her was pretty awesome. If you've been watching the show, then you know this moment has been a long time coming. Well worth the wait.
Daenerys has been captured by the Dothraki. Oh Daenerys, what have you gotten yourself into this time? At least she can speak the language, and spare herself some suffering. But now the Dragons no longer have their mother. Uh oh.
This was a good first episode that reintroduced all of the characters well, and looking forward to how this season plays out.
My favourite series on air. Thanks for the spoilers clarification, I'm of the opinion that a thread devoted to a new comic, movie, whatever, can and should have spoilers. If you aren't up to date, keep away. I don't think anyone had any doubt about him being dead. The only question is, will he come back and how? Melisandre's presence, seems to indicate yet another resurrection by, the Lord of Light. Her frailty may be just misdirection, I think sir Davos will play a role in her recovering her faith. After all, she shouldn't have reason to doubt her god, if she mistook the battle in the snow where Stannis is defeated, with the one where Jon triumphs over the boltons, that's her fault. Snow remaining in Castle Black, should've given her a hint, that things were going to end the way they did. The rescue in the woods was kind of out-of-series, we're used in GoT to those last minute rescues never happening. I guess they felt like showing us, that they can also do it, if they want. BTW, didn't Ramsay chop off Theon's balls, too? Or has he grown a new pair? I think she'll burn Vaes Dothrak to the ground. She's immune to fire, after all. As for the dragons, what Drogon needs is a veterinarian, and the other two need the key to their chains. They don't need their mother, as much as she needs them. Not all of them, I missed Bran and Tommen. I didn't miss Sam and Gilly. I haven't been watching (I'm happy with the books), and I've heard it's starting to deviate a bit. I remember feeling really confident after finishing the last book that they were going to have Jon survive by going into his wolf, then stealing someone evil's body. That'd also have the up side of getting him off the wall and into Winterfell if the plot wanted to go that way (the majority of internet fans I've talked to seem to think the book MUST end with Jon and Daenerys married and ruling Westeros) Well, his watch ended when he died, no matter how he comes back, he'll be free from his vow, and seeing how the majority of the "brothers" conduct themselves, good riddance. It's about time he joins the fight for the throne. Yes, I think it'd be funny, to give the series a "happily ever after" ending. (the majority of internet fans I've talked to seem to think the book MUST end with Jon and Daenerys married and ruling Westeros) Well, I guess sleeping with one's aunt wouldn't be the worst case of incest in the series... Is there a need for spoilers there? Has it been stated clearly in the books, that this is the case?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 30, 2016 13:51:36 GMT -5
Not that I recall... it's certainly a popular theory, and it's implied, but never stated that I recall.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 1, 2016 11:21:57 GMT -5
The series shifting away from the books is probably a good thing for the readers, and I don't even think GRRM will have a lot of trouble making his series something new. Already in A dance with dragons we have the development of major story lines that are simply absent from the TV series. I don't don't doubt that both the show and the books will end roughly the same way, but getting there is probably going to be different enough not to render the books redundant.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 1, 2016 11:52:40 GMT -5
I haven't been watching (I'm happy with the books), and I've heard it's starting to deviate a bit. I remember feeling really confident after finishing the last book that they were going to have Jon survive by going into his wolf, then stealing someone evil's body. That'd also have the up side of getting him off the wall and into Winterfell if the plot wanted to go that way (the majority of internet fans I've talked to seem to think the book MUST end with Jon and Daenerys married and ruling Westeros) Sansa is completely useless in the books, so I'm surprised she has some relevance. I'm kind of the opposite, haven't read the books but enjoy the show. I wanted to read the books but my backlog is too big, also I'll probably have issues with the way the plots differ and such, etc. I'd be surprised if Jon and Daenerys marry, I guess that would make some sort of sense but I have a hard time believing the producers will go that route. I did always see Jon as becoming King, but now he's dead lol. So we'll see. Looking forward to Episode 2 tonight!
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2016 2:04:50 GMT -5
Melisandre's presence, seems to indicate yet another resurrection by, the Lord of Light. Her frailty may be just misdirection, I think sir Davos will play a role in her recovering her faith. I missed Bran and Tommen. I didn't miss Sam and Gilly. Done and done. I still don't miss the last two. After the rescue in the woods, this episode's last minute rescue, starts to feel excessive. I hope it won't become the norm.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on May 2, 2016 5:18:23 GMT -5
He dead! He dead! He....um, he not dead! He not dead!
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2016 5:21:11 GMT -5
[SPOIL]He dead! He dead! He....um, he not dead! He not dead! [SPOIL] Your spoiler tags are incomplete, but as explained, there's no need for them. BTW, both statements are correct. This is one of those cases, where you die and get better afterwards.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 2, 2016 8:05:19 GMT -5
One thing that I see coming in the book but that might not work in the TV series is Jon (if he ain't dead) warging a dragon at some point .
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 2, 2016 12:26:32 GMT -5
Another great episode, this season so far is just amazing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the season where they've begun to deviate away from the books as they've bypassed George R.R. Martin's writing? If so they are doing a tremendous job. It's all playing out well.
Onto Episode 2's key elements:
Jon is back! I was surprised, he came back a lot faster than I had imagined. Melisandre's spell to resurrect him was a bit of a bore though. I had hoped it would be a bit more unique, as it would keep from believing that basically anyone could come back.
I've never hated a character ever as much as I hate Ramsey. This guy is pure evil, he makes me sick. I'll take solace in knowing he has it coming big time.
Tyrion let's loose the dragons! Such a tense moment. Hard not to love this dwarf.
Lannister's vs. the High Sparrow. Intriguing.
Arya Stark though. I like where they are going with her. So great.
Next Sunday can't get here fast enough!
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2016 12:43:12 GMT -5
Melisandre's spell to resurrect him was a bit of a bore though. I've never hated a character ever as much as I hate Ramsey. Lannister's vs. the High Sparrow. Intriguing. Pretty much like the one used by Thoros of Myr. The question isn't whether the ritual is simple or complicated, it just works or it doesn't. I'm sure the Red Woman has learned her lesson. One of the most interesting characters left, and you have to love the acting. Now, there's a guy I hate.
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Post by Bronze Age Brian on May 2, 2016 12:47:12 GMT -5
Melisandre's spell to resurrect him was a bit of a bore though. I've never hated a character ever as much as I hate Ramsey. Lannister's vs. the High Sparrow. Intriguing. Pretty much like the one used by Thoros of Myr. The question isn't whether the ritual is simple or complicated, it just works or it doesn't. I'm sure the Red Woman has learned her lesson. One of the most interesting characters left, and you have to love the acting. Now, there's a guy I hate.The High Sparrow I'm guessing? He's got some balls on him (and plenty of backup), that's for sure.
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Post by Ozymandias on May 2, 2016 13:17:35 GMT -5
Pretty much like the one used by Thoros of Myr. The question isn't whether the ritual is simple or complicated, it just works or it doesn't. I'm sure the Red Woman has learned her lesson. One of the most interesting characters left, and you have to love the acting. Now, there's a guy I hate.The High Sparrow I'm guessing? He's got some balls on him (and plenty of backup), that's for sure. When you're a religious fanatic, you can do all sorts of things, even if you're afraid, but I wouldn't call it "courage".
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