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Post by hondobrode on Jul 28, 2016 0:19:09 GMT -5
So, Johns is now the President of DC Entertainment as well as CCO - Chief Creative Officer
I love it !
He reports directly to Diane Nelson at the WB.
This is great news ! I know some don't care for Johns, but to me he's DC's Bendis in every good way. I love how he blends the previous with new, just like Rebirth.
I've waited years for this.
Definitely going to be keeping a sharper eye on DC now, as I'd kind of fallen away, but not totally.
He's also co-writing the WW movie and contributing to the Affleck Batman movie as well.
One thing I know for sure : Wonder Woman and the Superman Family titles look great !
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 28, 2016 5:35:19 GMT -5
I'm waiting for the day when he goes back to Marvel for the second time.
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Post by shishard on Jul 28, 2016 8:28:29 GMT -5
Johns is the reason I read DC. He brought me back with the first GL and Flash reboots. Great writer.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 28, 2016 8:50:59 GMT -5
Yeah, he'll dip his toe in, and could be a big player there, but I don't think Marvel is his strength.
He'll be at DC for quite a while with all this on his plate. He's their Golden Child. More power to him IMO.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 28, 2016 9:42:07 GMT -5
That much less likely I'll be reading any DCU stuff.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 28, 2016 9:55:57 GMT -5
wishing Johns success on this new endeavor. He is a much better idea man than Didio and Bendis and Queseda with much more respect for the history of DC and it's characters so with a bit of luck we can only hope for the best. Time will always tell the tale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 10:04:16 GMT -5
I have enjoyed his work off and on over the years, but I do appreciate his knowledge of the DCU and he seems to respect DC's past. If he can work unhampered by corporate demands, I think he will be totally awesome!
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 28, 2016 10:11:37 GMT -5
I think higher ups at WB have taken notice of him and his role within DC has grown and he's been assigned more and more.
I've said before, I can't think of a better Editor-in-Chief than Johns. His appreciation of the past while blending new elements to advance the characters and storylines but having them make sense is what fandom is looking for.
High hopes here.
Slam, why don't you like Johns ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 10:14:37 GMT -5
I think he will do an excellent job as long he stay focused and that's the key for DC Comics to move forward. He will do a commendable job and I might get back with DC Comics and check out some of the Re-Birth Titles and haven't made my mind up of which one I get. I'm getting good reports of Superman and Wonder Woman and I need to time to re-think of the "others" as well.
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Post by The Captain on Jul 28, 2016 10:15:51 GMT -5
I'm familiar with some of his work (Flash, Aquaman, Avengers) and have enjoyed it for the most part (Aquaman more than the other two, to be sure). If he's as devoted to DC as it seems, then I hope this works out for both parties.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 28, 2016 10:26:04 GMT -5
I think higher ups at WB have taken notice of him and his role within DC has grown and he's been assigned more and more. I've said before, I can't think of a better Editor-in-Chief than Johns. His appreciation of the past while blending new elements to advance the characters and storylines but having them make sense is what fandom is looking for. High hopes here. Slam, why don't you like Johns ? Johns is the most backward looking creator that I've ever come across. His entire modus operandi is to bring things back to the comics he read as a kid and re-tread that ground no matter how much earth he has to scorch to get there...and it appears the more earth he can bloody the better he likes it. He also is obsessed with taking niggling "continuity" points and making them into 20 part epic explanations of silly shit that never actually needed explained. I've never seen anything in any of his work that looks to move the medium forward in any way. It's all fan-service, largely servicing his own fan obsessions. He's the worst kind of continuity fetishist...continuity is all...as long as he likes it...if he doesn't he's going to piss on it and tell you it's raining. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 28, 2016 11:12:12 GMT -5
Slam, why don't you like Johns ? Johns is the most backward looking creator that I've ever come across. His entire modus operandi is to bring things back to the comics he read as a kid and re-tread that ground no matter how much earth he has to scorch to get there...and it appears the more earth he can bloody the better he likes it. He also is obsessed with taking niggling "continuity" points and making them into 20 part epic explanations of silly shit that never actually needed explained. I've never seen anything in any of his work that looks to move the medium forward in any way. It's all fan-service, largely servicing his own fan obsessions. He's the worst kind of continuity fetishist...continuity is all...as long as he likes it...if he doesn't he's going to piss on it and tell you it's raining. Slam, while I do see your point with a lot of the things you brought up, I'm probably much more of a younger fan than you. John's run on JSA is what made me love the lore and history of the DC universe in ways that I probably wouldn't have come across otherwise in a pre-wikipedia world with a dial-up modem Johns means well, even if his instincts aren't the best sometimes and that's more important to me than "retreading old ground to obscene levels". You can see the love and passion he has for DC and that's what counts |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 28, 2016 11:34:43 GMT -5
Johns is the most backward looking creator that I've ever come across. His entire modus operandi is to bring things back to the comics he read as a kid and re-tread that ground no matter how much earth he has to scorch to get there...and it appears the more earth he can bloody the better he likes it. He also is obsessed with taking niggling "continuity" points and making them into 20 part epic explanations of silly shit that never actually needed explained. I've never seen anything in any of his work that looks to move the medium forward in any way. It's all fan-service, largely servicing his own fan obsessions. He's the worst kind of continuity fetishist...continuity is all...as long as he likes it...if he doesn't he's going to piss on it and tell you it's raining. Slam, while I do see your point with a lot of the things you brought up, I'm probably much more of a younger fan than you. John's run on JSA is what made me love the lore and history of the DC universe in ways that I probably wouldn't have come across otherwise in a pre-wikipedia world with a dial-up modem Johns means well, even if his instincts aren't the best sometimes and that's more important to me than "retreading old ground to obscene levels". You can see the love and passion he has for DC and that's what counts What counts to me is telling interesting stories that do something besides build a fetishistic shrine to the past. I don't need to know the "Secret Origin of Barry Allen's bow tie." And I could care less. Barry Allen died to save the universe. R.I.P. Let's move on. Honestly, this is why I have little to no interest in comics in the DCU or Marvel Universe at this point. Because they're seldom anything but a re-hash of stuff we've seen a zillion times before. For every Hawkeye by Fraction and Aja, which actually manages to do something interesting with an old character, you have a dozen books by the likes of Johns that are Silver-Age fetishism. I'll pass. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:53:13 GMT -5
Slam, while I do see your point with a lot of the things you brought up, I'm probably much more of a younger fan than you. John's run on JSA is what made me love the lore and history of the DC universe in ways that I probably wouldn't have come across otherwise in a pre-wikipedia world with a dial-up modem Johns means well, even if his instincts aren't the best sometimes and that's more important to me than "retreading old ground to obscene levels". You can see the love and passion he has for DC and that's what counts What counts to me is telling interesting stories that do something besides build a fetishistic shrine to the past. I don't need to know the "Secret Origin of Barry Allen's bow tie." And I could care less. Barry Allen died to save the universe. R.I.P. Let's move on. Honestly, this is why I have little to no interest in comics in the DCU or Marvel Universe at this point. Because they're seldom anything but a re-hash of stuff we've seen a zillion times before. For every Hawkeye by Fraction and Aja, which actually manages to do something interesting with an old character, you have a dozen books by the likes of Johns that are Silver-Age fetishism. I'll pass. Everything good from the JSA series was established before Johns came on board by Robinsin and (sic) Goyer, Johns just took what the established and ran with it. My other problem with Johns is that the only way he knows how to make a character interesting is by making them younger and angstier. His characters are perpetual adolescents no matter what their biological age is. It works when he is writing an adolescent like Courtney "Stargirl" but not when you are supposedly writing grown men and women. My wife often describes John as the perpetual fanboy standing in the back of the comic shop throwing "wouldn't it be cool if" ideas out their with his other socially awkward friends with no idea about what actually makes a good story or how to craft one that appeals to anybody but the same fanboy set. The problem she says, is someone was stupid enough to put him in a position to actually make those ideas into comics. He writes the kind of stories that insulate comics from a mass audience and creates a barrier to growing the audience that is needed to make comics a viable medium in the mass market again. Johns will make the shrinking niche audience of hardcore fanboys extremely happy for a few years while DC's overall presence in the mass market entertainment field as print comics will continue to shrink as no new audiences will buy it (just lapsed fanboys coming back for a short time until the next "ooh shiny" comic trend captures their attention and they leave the books in droves and shift their dollars elsewhere in the direct market) and no real growth will be achieved, pretty much the same problem we have seen with mainstream big 2 comics since the 90s at least. -M |
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Post by Action Ace on Jul 28, 2016 14:03:46 GMT -5
For me, he's among the twenty best comic book writers of all time and would certainly rank in the top 5 in the last fifteen years.
For my own enjoyment, I'd rather have him writing four comics a month than overlooking DC's properties in other media.
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