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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 2, 2017 12:13:53 GMT -5
It's a sliding 10 year timeframe that we use here . But I can't really think of anything created after maybe 1995 that I would consider classic. It's mostly regurgitated ideas IMHO. I'm not sure it's possible to disagree more with something. I've got Slam's back with this . If you stick to reading the same 50+ year old characters, then off course it's regurgitated. But that's on you for having such a narrow range of comic interests |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 2, 2017 12:49:07 GMT -5
I agree that there hasn't been much in mainstream superhero work I would call classic in the last 20 years, but there certainly have been some great things done outside the big 2. Just as one example, even though not all of it was for me, I'd consider Promethea a classic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 12:51:07 GMT -5
If you stick to reading the same 50+ year old characters, then off course it's regurgitated. But that's on you for having such a narrow range of comic interests I'd also partly blame the 'big two', who are happy to regurgitate those fifty year old (plus) comic book characters, with various reboots, rebirths, paper thin plots spread out over many issues and major non-events! |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 2, 2017 13:09:45 GMT -5
If you stick to reading the same 50+ year old characters, then off course it's regurgitated. But that's on you for having such a narrow range of comic interests I'd also partly blame the 'big two', who are happy to regurgitate those fifty year old (plus) comic book characters, with various reboots, rebirths, paper thin plots spread out over many issues and major non-events! This really is the history of super-hero comics. If you look at the 40s it's one re-tread story after another. Same with the 50s. Same with most every decade. The innovative stories were the exception, not the norm. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 2, 2017 13:34:57 GMT -5
If you go through the stuff that Image alone has been publishing the last 15 years or so you can see that saying that "the same old story is being told over and over" is nonsense.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 2, 2017 14:45:50 GMT -5
It's a sliding 10 year timeframe that we use here . But I can't really think of anything created after maybe 1995 that I would consider classic. It's mostly regurgitated ideas IMHO. Ummm... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Preacher Planetary Fables (at least 1-75) Saga 100 Bullets Gotta say you're more than a little offbase on this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 14:58:02 GMT -5
If you stick to reading the same 50+ year old characters, then off course it's regurgitated. But that's on you for having such a narrow range of comic interests I'd also partly blame the 'big two', who are happy to regurgitate those fifty year old (plus) comic book characters, with various reboots, rebirths, paper thin plots spread out over many issues and major non-events! Yeah but they've been regurgitating the same ole same ole since the 1940s so it's not a since the 90s thing. It's the very nature of the beast for big 2 super-hero comics and if you condemn it, you are condemning it for being what it is. If it were something different, the fanboys who make up its primary audience would have moved on to something else long ago. They do it because that's what their customers buy. If you are pointing fingers the big 2 super-hero publishers you have to point 3 back at the customers of big 2 super-hero comics and their buying habits. If people didn't buy it, they wouldn't be making it. It's a vicious circle, they cannot change things up without losing their hardcore customer base who are afraid of change and are pure neo-phobes, and they cannot maintain the monthly pamphlet format without maintaining the hardcore customer base because there is not enough interest int he format outside that hardcore base to sustain the format, so changing the content would require changing the format and creating a whole new infrastrcuture for the comic distribution business, and that ain't going to happen on their dime. -M |
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Post by brutalis on Feb 2, 2017 15:05:26 GMT -5
It's a sliding 10 year timeframe that we use here . But I can't really think of anything created after maybe 1995 that I would consider classic. It's mostly regurgitated ideas IMHO. Ummm... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Preacher Planetary Fables (at least 1-75) Saga 100 Bullets Gotta say you're more than a little offbase on this one. Yep, there is plenty out there if you look. Scalped Scott Pilgrim Y- The Last Man New Frontier Bone Hellboy And for the Marvel/DC current crowds that may have never seen any of the old classics: many of the newer things which we might not consider as classic will most likely be called classic in a few years. Identity Crisis 52 Batman Eternal Legion of 3 Worlds Civil War House of M Annihilation Old Man Logan |
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Post by Crimebuster on Feb 2, 2017 15:26:45 GMT -5
And for the Marvel/DC current crowds that may have never seen any of the old classics: many of the newer things which we might not consider as classic will most likely be called classic in a few years. Identity Crisis 52 Civil War House of M Old Man Logan I can call myself Marilyn Monroe, but that doesn't make it so. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 2, 2017 16:37:43 GMT -5
It's a sliding 10 year timeframe that we use here . But I can't really think of anything created after maybe 1995 that I would consider classic. It's mostly regurgitated ideas IMHO. Ummm... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Preacher Planetary Fables (at least 1-75) Saga 100 Bullets Gotta say you're more than a little offbase on this one. We have to agree to disagree. Those series were good stories but borrowed from previous stories or series. Planetary= X-Files and FF 100 bullets= Crime stories from every era of comic books LOEG= Avengers or JLA etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 16:51:26 GMT -5
Ummm... League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Preacher Planetary Fables (at least 1-75) Saga 100 Bullets Gotta say you're more than a little offbase on this one. We have to agree to disagree. Those series were good stories but borrowed from previous stories or series. Planetary= X-Files and FF 100 bullets= Crime stories from every era of comic books LOEG= Avengers or JLA etc. Superman =Doc Savage + circus strongman outfit Batman=Shadow + Doc Savage FF=Challengers of the Unknown w/super-powers Dr. Strange=Mandrake Thor=Norse myth + Superman JSA=Knights of the Round Table JLA=JSA Avengers=JLA and we can go on and on, your logic defines all of comics characters not just the post-1995 like you want to insist there was some kind of change occurring in and that things were different before that -M |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 2, 2017 17:00:19 GMT -5
We have to agree to disagree. Those series were good stories but borrowed from previous stories or series. Planetary= X-Files and FF 100 bullets= Crime stories from every era of comic books LOEG= Avengers or JLA etc. Superman =Doc Savage + circus strongman outfit Batman=Shadow + Doc Savage FF=Challengers of the Unknown w/super-powers Dr. Strange=Mandrake Thor=Norse myth + Superman JSA=Knights of the Round Table JLA=JSA Avengers=JLA and we can go on and on, your logic defines all of comics characters not just the post-1995 like you want to insist there was some kind of change occurring in and that things were different before that -M Knights of the Round Table = Jason and the Argonauts. Beyond that...the idea that 100 Bullets or Criminal or any number of modern Crime comics is equal to earlier crime comics is ludicrous. Even including pre-code crime comics. I'll consider comparisons to Hammett, Chandler or Thompson. But not Lev Gleason. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Feb 2, 2017 17:04:35 GMT -5
I guess everything is a regurgitation from Gilgamesh, Ulysses and The Bible  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 2, 2017 17:07:02 GMT -5
But the subject is CLASSICS. I don't see any of the latter books mentioned as classic.
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Post by brutalis on Feb 2, 2017 17:07:10 GMT -5
I guess everything is a regurgitation from Gilgamesh, Ulysses and The Bible Which is all derived from the pudding of creation which bubbled and frothed until life crawled out from it! |
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