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Post by rberman on Jul 7, 2019 20:33:32 GMT -5
What Came Next: 1976 seemed like to DC like a good year to bring back the New Gods without Kirby. 1st Issue Special was a convenient potpourri title for DC to try out different creators and concepts, then go to series with whatever stuck. (Not much stuck, and the DC Implosion was just around the corner.) In this case ( 1st Issue Special #13, the series finale), the creators were a patchwork combo of Gerry Conway writing, Denny O’Neil scripting, and Mike Vosburg on pencils and inks. Just how would it work at DC to split the writing and scripting, anyway? Perez and Wein did some of that on post-COIE Wonder Woman.The story is quite mainstream. Orion learns of Darkseid's plan to “invade the Earth,” and Darkseid sends some para-demons in an ineffectual attack on New Genesis as well. Orion travels to Earth to match knuckles with Kalibak (again). Then he’s captured there by Granny Goodness and taken to Apokolips. He busts free and fights Kalibak again, then confronts Darkseid. But Darkseid has arranged for Earth’s sun to explode upon his own death, so Orion stalks home at Izaya's insistence, fuming. I guess Darkseid’s plot to attack Earth was a ruse? Or something? It doesn’t make a lot of sense, just an excuse for Orion to bust some heads. No new ideas or characters are introduced. Return of the New Gods #12-19 (1977, Gerry Conway and Don Newton) saw the New Gods as a traditional super-team composed of Lightray, Metron (now very much a team player), Forager (likewise), Lonar the Barbarian, a very heroic and Mar-Vell-looking Orion, and Zatanna-esque Jezebelle (complete with ponytail, opera gloves, and fishnets). They defended Earth against foes like Deep Six and Doctor Bedlam, as Darkseid and a revived Desaad sought to collect (a quest!) six humans who together would give him the power of Anti-Life. The story isn't great, but the art is pretty good. I don't know about that panel cutting off Darkseid's nose, though. Issue #19 ended the series, but the story continued when Adventure Comics became a dollar comic with #459 (Oct 1978), in which Darkseid makes the standard “join me, my son, and we will rule the galaxy together" offer. In the finale ( Adventure Comics #460), Darkseid tussles with Izaya and then Orion in the Promethean Galaxy, the one with planet-sized giants strapped to boulders beside the Source Wall. The Source grows Darkseid to promethean size, but when he approaches Apokolips at high speed, Desaad shoots him down. Oops! Sorry boss. Hey, wait. Did that kill Darkseid? If so, then Earth's sun should have exploded, according to 1st Issue Special.Mister Miracle also continued in 1977 with #19-22 (by Steve Englehart and Marshall Rogers) in a more serial format. Darkseid’s four main henchmen (Kanto, Granny, Bedlam, and Virman) kidnap Big Barda and brainwash her into villainy. Gerber’s run culminated with a showdown against Darkseid that, apart from sidelining Barda as a comatose damsel, sported a grandeur that Kirby’s run often lacked. The series petered out (issues #23-25 by Steve Gerber and Michael Golden) with an intriguing story in which a messianic Scott rejected both New Genesis and Apokolips. Barda is back in full force, not taking “no” for an answer when she feels frisky. “Super-Jesus” is a story I would have expected more from Englehart than Gerber. It’s also a reminder that Marvel folks moving to DC was nothing new when Jim Shooter took the reigns. Golden’s excellent work presaged his upcoming top-selling run on Marvel’s Micronauts, and Granny's reluctant new protégé Aliana has the same weird eye patches that Golden gave Princess Mari of the Micronauts. Not identical, but same idea, not long apart.
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 7, 2019 21:39:14 GMT -5
These books were my intro to the Fourth World. Heaven help me!
In retrospect, I think Steve Englehart-- and Steve Gerber-- despite going in completely different directions from each other-- were among the ONLY writers to ever "get" what Kirby was doing.
Meanwhile, Denny O'Neil and Gerry Conway-- 2 of the WORST writers that DC ever saddled Kirby with near the end of his tenure with the company-- had NO IDEA what they were doing on NEW GODS. None.
A few years back, when I was re-reading these, I got up to the 1st Conway-Newton issue... and STOPPED DEAD. I could not bring myself to continue. It was THAT BAD. More than anything, it seemed Conway's goal was to somehow replicate the 1968-69 SILVER SURFER series in style. And I think he did it. IT WAS UNREADABLE.
A shame. Don Newton became one of my favorite artists when he got on BATMAN.
I'm glad you decided to just skim over. I don't think I could have made it thru in-depth reviews of stories I couldn't even manage to get myself to re-read.
George Perez always had a way of contributing so much that he made almost every writer he worked with look like they knew what they were doing (heeheehee). When Perez got on JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA... the guy who inspired Steve Englehart to QUIT Marvel and then comics in general (Gerry Conway) actually started to look good for a change.
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 7, 2019 21:42:13 GMT -5
Something that always amazed me was how Russ Heath's inks actually managed to make Mike Golden's art look.... "NORMAL".
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 7, 2019 21:45:27 GMT -5
JIMMY OLSEN #150 / Jun’72 – “WHERE’S CHARLIE NOW?”
Back in 1958, determined to make some extra money, Jack Kirby managed to take over the Green Arrow series, which was then running in both ADVENTURE COMICS and WORLD’S FINEST COMICS. Typically for Jack, although he was told DC editor Jack Schiff already had “commitments” to other writers, he made as many modifications to the scripts of others as possible, in order to improve the series and “turn it into something exciting”. A mere 7 months and 11 episodes later, Kirby had his infamous falling out with Schiff, and his DC work evaporated. As one might expect, no sooner was Kirby gone, then Green Arrow returned to its previous style as one of DC’s dullest strips, and stayed that way for a decade.
Well, in 1970, Jack Kirby, at the request of DC, wound up taking over an existing series of his choice, and he picked JIMMY OLSEN because it was between creative teams at that moment. As anyone who’s read my previous reviews has seen, the change in look, tone, style, approach, EVERYTHING, was the equivalent of an atomic bomb going off on a monthly basis. 18 months and 15 issues later, Jack left JIMMY OLSEN to begin other projects. Editors Joe Orlando & E. Nelson Bridwell took over, and the main feature was put into the hands of writer John Albano & artist Bob Oksner. I’m gonna take a guess the SAME thing that happened to Green Arrow happened to Jimmy when Jack left. I have to guess, because I’ve never read any of the post-Kirby episodes. And judging by Oksner’s covers, well, let’s just say I think he was MUCH better when he was doing JERRY LEWIS. It’s no shame to do “cartoony” art—especially when you’re REALLY good at it! I’m afraid Oksner was wasting his time doing superheroes (but that’s just my opinion).
ANYWAY... in addition to Jimmy, this issue (according to the GCD) contained a Plastic Man reprint from POLICE COMICS #20 (Jul’43). It also contained a NEW episode starring The Newboy Legion, by E. Nelson Bridwell & artist Win Mortimer (who had illustrated LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES from 1968-70).
“WHERE’S CHARLIE NOW?” opens with the boys discovering that “Angry Charlie”, the creature they brought back from The Evil Factory in Scotland, has somehow escaped from his cage. Now, follow me here... his cage isn’t in The D.N.A. Project where you’d expect—it’s not even in a zoo. It’s in someone’s back yard in Brooklyn. WHAT th’...? Big Words quickly figures out someone opened the cage and let him loose. Scouring the neighborhood, they find an 18-wheeler and several cars overturned, evidence that he’s been by.
Meanwhile, as a neighborhood candy store (anybody remember these?), a little girl named Kathy is telling the owner, her grandfather, that she’s found a stray and wants to know if she can keep him. He berates her for repeatedly freeing stray dogs from the dog-catchers and filling the basement with every stray animal she runs across. Just then, some local toughs demand service, despite a long habit of never paying for their food. When the owner objects, they get rough—at least, until (who didn’t see this coming?) Angry Charlie wanders out of the basement and sends them packing.
Sometime later, Gabby is telling a policeman he’s been searching for “the animal” all day, and once he finds it he’s sure Superman will see to it it never gets loose again. At that point, the store owner calls Gabby over, and shows him Charlie, who’s been eating candy to his heart’s content. Gabby leads Charlie away on a leash... but moments later, Charlie gets loose again, without Gabby even noticing. OY!
I’m not sure, but I suspect this was the LAST appearance of The Newboy Legion, or Angry Charlie, until they were revived in the Post-CRISIS / New DC Universe, sometime in the late 80’s. Probably just as well, if this was how they might have been handled. (10-10-2011)
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 7, 2019 21:48:03 GMT -5
JIMMY OLSEN #152 / Sep’72 – “THE DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD”
In a run-down suburban area, a squad of police surround an abandoned building, intent on capturing a “Cop-Killer” who’s holed up in it. But they’re having a tough time of it, as a hail of gunfire from the building injures Officer Corrigan (a friend of Jimmy Olsen’s, and no relation to Jim Corrigan, alias The Spectre) and destroying several police cars. It’s a gripping scene right out of a tense crime drama, and almost out-of-place in a book like this—until Clark Kent switches to his Superman identity and crashes in, discovering it’s a number of automated machines that have been holding off the cops! Discovering a hidden tunnel under the house, similar to the one under Terry Dean’s Discoteque, Supes suspects Darkseid’s involvement. Rival reporter Percy Bratten decides to scoop Jimmy, and annoys Morgan Edge by calling him directly, instead of the copy editor. But Edge thinks, “Still, he DID tell me how much Superman now knows about MY organization!”
Before Jimmy can call in his story, he’s interrupted by Yango—head of the biker-gang The Outsiders—who, to Jimmy’s shock, has Morgan Edge with him. “An UNLIKELIER pair I’ve never seen.” The two explain to Jimmy that this is the REAL Morgan Edge, who was kidnapped, cloned at The Evil Factory, and held prisoner by his evil duplicate, who somehow could not bring himself to murder his own original. Unlike Superman earlier, Jimmy DOES believe the story, and the three of them set out to do something about it. “Engines roar, and the air screams about the three, as they take off, taut, anxious, ready to face the challenge that lies ahead, though it may claim their lives...” Oooh!
One of Edge’s stoolies spots the trio, informs Edge, who then calls “Killer”, leader of Inter-Gang’s own “Cycle-Freaks”. As Killer says it, “Scragging dudes is how we GET IT OFF!” “The hogs roar down the pavement in hot pursuit of our heroes... the Inter-Gang Cycle-Freaks are tense... a terrible sense of satisfaction sweeping over them as they move in for the kill!” Yango recognizes them, and says, “They’re all crack shots!” “Bullets scream, rockets roar, in a deafening and horrible din... as three determined men weave their cycles from side to side to avoid the lead projectiles of certain death...”
As the trio and their would-be murderers reach the G.B.S. TV studio, they interrupt a live talk-show where a guest, Professor Savin, is explaining why he thinks the invention of the DOOR-LATCH was “a great set-back for society.” “...because it fragmented society... allowed people to pretend to be one thing in public, then be something entirely different behind locked doors.” This is either a satire on the stupidity and banality of most talk shows, or a heavy-handed commentary on the current story itself... or both.
Trying to avoid getting shot, Jimmy & Yango run into a sound-proof recording studio, at which point Killer puts on a sound-effects LP and cranks the sound up to the max. (You know, I swear I saw something just like this on an episode of GET SMART.)
Percy, seeing Edge, goes to Edge’s office, and promptly tells him about this “other man” who looks like him. Edge calls up “Tombstone Greer”, a known bank robber, and orders him to kill the “other” Edge, and leave no trace of what the man looks like. Greer says he’ll use a “neutron gun”, which will leave “nothing but a pile of CHARRED ASHES.” Obviously, this is more of Darkseid’s technology. As Edge puts it, “Funny... that the ultra-science of the planet APOKALIPS should wind up in the hands of a dumb hood. But there are times when one must combine brilliance and stupidity to get the job done.”
Flying overhead in one of the most awkward flying poses I’ve ever seen in any superhero comic, Supes hears trouble coming from the GBS building, and rescues Jimmy & Yango. Meanwhile, Darkseid appears in Edge’s office, confronts him with the fact that he KNOWS the real Edge is alive, and uses his Omega Effect to teleport the fake Edge to where the real Edge is. The two fight, brutally, until “Killer” arrives—and fries the “wrong” one to ashes! “How’s dat fer a good job... boss!? Yer the boss, ain’tcha?”
Superman arrives, and the neutron gun proves almost too much for him! Jimmy tries to intervene, and is almost killed for it, until Superman grabs Killer’s wrist—the result being, Killer is fried to ashes instead of Jimmy. Never thought I’d see Superman pull a move like that!
And so, Superman apologizes to Edge for not believing him earlier, after suggesting it’s best if the public not find out about “the mysterious forces that are still at large and behind all this.” Considering his other identity as a reporter, this seems somewhat ironic.
Steve Skeates does a pretty decent job with the “script” on this, presumably the plot was mostly the work of E. Nelson Bridwell. One has to wonder if the whole “Morgan Edge as villain” plot wasn’t altered so drastically (so that the baddie WASN’T the real Edge) because it might have been seen as too close a reflection of DC having been recently bought out by a Corporation, which at some point had genuine MOB ties? (I looked that up at Wikipedia last year—it makes for very interesting reading.)
While Werner Roth’s LOIS LANE art is pretty while bordering on bland, the art here by Mike Sekowsky & Bob Oskner is like looking at an entirely different world. It’s rough, it’s crude, it’s downright BRUTAL in spots... in effect, it’s virtually the complete antithesis of what “DC” art looked like for most of the 50’s & 60’s. I find it rather ironic (and perhaps a bit frustrating) that, when Jack Kirby took over JIMMY OLSEN, the editor decided to have the faces of Clark & Jimmy redrawn to keep them more in line with the “model”, but here, Sekowsky & Oksner were allowed to have their far more radical look for the characters published INTACT! My introduction to Sekowsky was JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA, where his pencils were inked by Bernard Sachs (for the interiors) and Murphy Anderson (for the covers). Both were overpowering, in different ways, and neither looked anything even remotely like what I’m seeing here!
The cover art has sparked some controversy, as far as who actually did it. It looks, at first glance, like Gil Kane either pencilled it, or at least, did the design. But Kane was so busy at Marvel during this period, that seems unlikely. According to the notes at the GCD, it’s been suggested that it was either Kane, Sekowsky & Oksner, or Oksner solo but with a possible Joe Orlando design. We may never know for sure. (3-17-2012)
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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2019 2:07:14 GMT -5
Something that always amazed me was how Russ Heath's inks actually managed to make Mike Golden's art look.... "NORMAL". Oh, much better than just normal, I'd say -some of my favourite superhero artwork ever!. Though I agree, never liked those "eye-rings" or whatever they are, here or on the Micronauts character, or on Starlin's Gamora.
I really liked both the Englehart/Rogers and the Gerber/Golden Mister Miracle, and not only because I'm a big fan of all four creators, especially the 2 writers. Both runs were so short that it's really hard to say how they might have engaged with the underlying themes or ideas of Kirby's creation, but I totally agree that each of them captured something of the epic, cosmic grandeur of the original concept, in stark contrast to almost every other version, most of which more or less reduce the whole thing to the usual superhero shenanigans, however well crafted or otherwise on that level.
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Post by rberman on Jul 8, 2019 7:40:35 GMT -5
I liked the look of Angry Charlie. "Monster Pet" stories never turn out well, or at least they shouldn't. Like those people who want to bring home a spider monkey from their jungle vacation. Don't do it! I wonder what a good habitat for Angry Charlie would be, though. Nowhere on Earth. Take him to some other planet? But he might mess with the ecosystem there, lacking a natural predator and perhaps even fissioning into a million Charlies. That might make a good story. What would Swamp Thing do with him?
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Post by mikelmidnight on Jul 8, 2019 11:49:14 GMT -5
In retrospect, I think Steve Englehart-- and Steve Gerber-- despite going in completely different directions from each other-- were among the ONLY writers to ever "get" what Kirby was doing.
I think part of the quality of these MM issues is that Englehart and Gerber realised that the Fourth World characters are not superheroes, or even super-godlike beings like Marvel's Asgardians. They represent ideas.
Some current writers like Grant Morrison and Tom King have finally started to pay attention to that again. Now, I don't necessarily like what they're doing with the characters but at least they're trying to portray a sense of their nature. Tom King's Darkseid isn't some world-conquering baddie, he's the living representation of totalitarianism.
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Post by MDG on Jul 8, 2019 12:07:29 GMT -5
These books were my intro to the Fourth World. Heaven help me! In retrospect, I think Steve Englehart-- and Steve Gerber-- despite going in completely different directions from each other-- were among the ONLY writers to ever "get" what Kirby was doing. Yep. Every other attempt afterwards (at least 'til the mid-90s when I essentially dropped out of mainstream books), the Fourth World characters were "just more superheroes." I'm sure Kirby didn't see them as just "long underwear characters," to quote somebody. mikelmidnight put it very nicely. Something that always amazed me was how Russ Heath's inks actually managed to make Mike Golden's art look.... "NORMAL". That's good, right?
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 8, 2019 12:49:30 GMT -5
I started my look at the New Gods with the return, after covering the run of 1st Issue Special. New Gods was definitely a rewrite, as superheroes, which is why it didn't work. Conway didn't understand the mythological component of the series. However, Don newton made it all look great, because he was a great storyteller and artist.
Mister Miracle does deal in mythic elements, with some superhero trappings and forces Scott into a messianic role. It does a pretty good job, up to the point that Scott publicly beats Darkseid, to bring Barda out of her coma and show the Hunger Dogs that they can beat Darkseid. then, Englehart is gone and Rogers quickly follows, while Gerber is tasked with moving it back into superhero territory, which is where MM stayed, in appearances in brave & the Bold.
Conway did finally get it, though, in the JLA/JSA/New Gods crossover, featuring George Perez's first work on JLA (after Dick Dillin's sudden death). Conway does a fantastic job, ably assisted by Perez's visuals. I like Dillin more than most (he was better with Blackhawk than JLA, though); but, Perez was better at epic.
The Adventure story leads the the JLA multi-parter, which is pretty much it, until they reprint Kirby's stuff and let him finish it, with the Hunger Dogs graphic novel. Then, there is the Super Powers mini-series, a brief appearance in Crisis, then Darkseid (and minions) and Mister Miracle and his crew are about the only ones used, until Cosmic Odyssey, which leads to the revived series. The Superman book does revive the Guardian and "The Project," renamed the Cadmus Project.
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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2019 16:04:46 GMT -5
I still haven't read that JLA/JSA/New Gods story and since I've never liked Gerry Conway's writing much my expectations for it are pretty low. But I am definitely looking forward to seeing George Perez's artwork for the New Gods, especially as it was done during the earlier period of his career, still my favourite. Too bad they kept using the re-designed costume for Orion, though.
I would like to have seen all my favourite artists do the New Gods (and Eternals!) at some point, but that was never going to happen.
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 8, 2019 18:14:33 GMT -5
"Monster Pet" stories never turn out well, or at least they shouldn't. Like those people who want to bring home a spider monkey from their jungle vacation. Don't do it! That's kinda the basis of Poe's " Rue Morgue". The sailor buys an orangatan from a foreign market, it winds up injuring another sailor on his ship (who was stupid enough to keep taunting it), then is kicked off the ship when they reach Paris, and has to try to sell it. But while he's figuring out what to do, one night it gets loose, and.... TERRIBLE things happen.
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Post by rberman on Jul 8, 2019 18:23:15 GMT -5
"Monster Pet" stories never turn out well, or at least they shouldn't. Like those people who want to bring home a spider monkey from their jungle vacation. Don't do it! That's kinda the basis of Poe's " Rue Morgue". The sailor buys an orangutan from a foreign market, it winds up injuring another sailor on his ship (who was stupid enough to keep taunting it), then is kicked off the ship when they reach Paris, and has to try to sell it. But while he's figuring out what to do, one night it gets loose, and.... TERRIBLE things happen. I think I saw that movie. It didn't turn out well for man or beast.
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Post by profh0011 on Jul 8, 2019 18:26:26 GMT -5
I've enjoyed a lot of Mike Golden's work over the years, but, his drawing style is every bit as "strange" (if not more so) than Marshall Rogers! That's what blew my mind about Russ Heath. In a very traditional early-60s "DC" kind of way, as an inker, he somehow smoothed out the weird edges of Golden's art.
It's kinda like what inkers like Wally Wood or Ralph Reese did with Gil Kane. Just somehow took what was there, but made it look BETTER than anyone else ever did.
STEVE RUDE did a couple of really outstanding Fourth World books with Mark Evanier... MISTER MIRACLE SPECIAL (Apr'87) and LEGENDS OF THE DC UNIVERSE #14 (Mar'99), the latter apparently based on an unused Jack Kirby JIMMY OLSEN story idea.
Rude has been my #1 favorite comics artist for decades now, and sadly is often under-employed. I remember reading an interview with him once that confirmed what I'd always suspected since the 80s.. that his 2 biggest influences were Paul Gulacy... and Jack Kirby.
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Post by berkley on Jul 8, 2019 20:10:29 GMT -5
Thee were phases of Golden's career where his artwork became a bit too stylised for me, with weird-looking legs and things of that sort, IIRC, but for the most part I'm a pretty big fan of his stuff. I thought his little-seen Jackie Chan comic, Spartan-X, was really nice, for example.
Steve Rude's style looks like a very conscious tribute or homage to Kirby to me, though I imagine there must be other influences I can't identify at play. It works better for me at some times than at others, though it's almost never something I actively dislike.
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