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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 14:06:52 GMT -5
Well since people are trying to apply real world thinking to Peter's inventions, let's start with the reality check that lots of talented inventors die broke and in obscurity for any number of reasons. Some don't have the legal or business acumen the navigate the labyrinth which is the patent process. Some do, only to find someone else has already patented something too similar and they are denied and cannot exploit the idea because someone got there first with something similar. Sometimes corporations buy up patents and let them lie fallow rather than exploiting them because it would compete with other money making products they are currently exploiting. Finally, for someone like Peter who is paranoid about keeping his identity secret (to the point he was ok with his photos of Spidey being uncredited so he couldn't be tied to Spidey), how would it look if all the patents to Spidey's equipment were from a guy named Peter Parker-let's leave a trail of bread crumbs for all those psychotic super-villains and super-science evil organizations like A.I.M. right to Aunt Mays' doorstep. Tony Stark had the advantage of having the infrastructure in place from his father's company to fund his R&D and to create a path to market for his inventions, a legal department to handle all the patenting and trademark issues, etc. Reed had an academic background and obviously knew the ins and outs of patenting his creations and access to labs for R&d as the FF funded a lot of their operations through his patent profits, etc. Peter, a high school kid from Queens had none of these advantages and connections to help monetize anything he did. He was a prime candidate for being talented inventor who dies broke and in obscurity if he hadn't been bitten by the spider, perhaps he may have been recruited by Oscorp, who would have left him penniless and unknown after they took his best and brightest ideas. Also of note as to organic webs, not all spiders are webspinners. Some species do not make webs, so it would depend on what species of spider bit him whether he had organic webs or not. And webs shooting out his butt might not have gotten past the Comic Code Authority in the 60s. -M
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Post by Duragizer on Jun 1, 2019 15:26:11 GMT -5
Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider and gets all the qualities of a spider except the most iconic? Even among actual spider species these qualities vary but all spiders have the ability to spin webs of some kind. If we're gonna pursue this line of questioning, though, we're gonna have to also ask why Pete didn't gain fangs and venom glands. Or four extra limbs. Or two-to-six extra eyes.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 1, 2019 18:42:07 GMT -5
I can't believe that this discussion has garnered as much attention and comments as it has. I feel like I'm in a Seinfeld episode. I still say he's naked under that suit!
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 1, 2019 19:55:03 GMT -5
Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider and gets all the qualities of a spider except the most iconic? Even among actual spider species these qualities vary but all spiders have the ability to spin webs of some kind. If we're gonna pursue this line of questioning, though, we're gonna have to also ask why Pete didn't gain fangs and venom glands. Or four extra limbs. Or two-to-six extra eyes. Well tbf he never took on any physical antibutes of a spider initially. It was all spider abilities he inherited.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 1, 2019 20:15:06 GMT -5
The spidey-sense is probably the equivalent of having the extra eyes.
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Post by zaku on Jun 2, 2019 5:43:04 GMT -5
I don't care for that scene at all, I'm afraid. It feels like it was written by someone who dislikes the character. The supercilious criticisms of AF15 seem petty and mean. What are they meant to convey, other than snark? Maybe I just don't get it. That kind of smug cynicism is not at all how I consume comics, especially Spider-Man. YMMV. I've not read the book. But that snippet didn't do a lot for me. What it really does is shows the problem with never-aging characters and sliding timelines. Amazing Fantasy #15 is a close to perfect short super-hero origin story. But it is also a product of its time. And it doesn't work as well when you bring it to 20??. The world has changed. People have changed. Laws and technology have changed. I will say that I don't buy that a kid in that classroom setting would know about LLCs (which again did not exist until 1977). Take my word, but just don't judge the book from these two pages. After that, Spider-Man earns the respect and trust of these kids. Who are exactly like a good chunk of kids in the world: they believe to know better of their elders. And the kid who spoke about LLCs is the son of a politician, so it isn't so far fetched he knows about these subjects.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 2, 2019 6:33:45 GMT -5
Peter Parker gets bitten by a radioactive spider and gets all the qualities of a spider except the most iconic? Even among actual spider species these qualities vary but all spiders have the ability to spin webs of some kind. If we're gonna pursue this line of questioning, though, we're gonna have to also ask why Pete didn't gain fangs and venom glands. Or four extra limbs. Or two-to-six extra eyes. There's certainly enough canonical evidence (Amazing Spider-Man #100, Spider-Man: The Other) to argue that further Spider-esque mutation* is possible, even likely. * The Marvel version of the word, not the science version.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 2, 2019 6:35:23 GMT -5
And webs shooting out his butt might not have gotten past the Comic Code Authority in the 60s. -M I am working on a post on how the Comics Code - if it didn't irrevocably damage the American comic book industry - set it back 20-30 years. Filing this away for evidence.
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