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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 19:29:50 GMT -5
So why does Spidey not make a full fist to shoot his web? I'm pretty sure the artistic reason is that the classic two-finger press looks cooler than a full fist (maybe Ditko was already working on Dr Strange and was already in mind of weird hand motions?), but is there an in-universe explanation for why he doesn't make a full fist? Maybe it's just me, but I cannot make that motion without dragging my pinky down.
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Post by Duragizer on May 29, 2019 19:39:33 GMT -5
[INSERT BIZARRE PARANOID ANTISEMITIC CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE]
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Post by Cei-U! on May 29, 2019 20:01:44 GMT -5
Spidey only needs his middle and ring fingers to trigger the button on his web-shooter, so perhaps he extends the others to aim (line-of-sight). He has, however, been depicted using all four fingers in some Silver Age stories, usually when drawn by Kirby or other artists but occasionally by Ditko too.
Cei-U!
I summon the finger exercises!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 29, 2019 21:57:44 GMT -5
So why does Spidey not make a full fist to shoot his web? I'm pretty sure the artistic reason is that the classic two-finger press looks cooler than a full fist (maybe Ditko was already working on Dr Strange and was already in mind of weird hand motions?), but is there an in-universe explanation for why he doesn't make a full fist? Maybe it's just me, but I cannot make that motion without dragging my pinky down. Spidey predates Doctor Strange by almost a year, although I don't know when the hand motion debuted. And I suspect that P.P. is just showing off his Spider-flexibility in an attempt to cow his enemies. |
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Post by Randle-El on May 29, 2019 22:04:32 GMT -5
I remember the 70s live action Spider-Man starring Nicholas Hammond didn't use the signature I-love-you-in-sign-langauge hand gesture to activate his webs. He just aimed his open hand and webs shot out.
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Post by beccabear67 on May 29, 2019 23:18:09 GMT -5
Why? Because it rocks?   |
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Post by chadwilliam on May 29, 2019 23:45:14 GMT -5
I would think that if making a fist triggered his webs, then he'd have his webs going off unintentionally every time he threw a punch or crumpled something up in his hand or shook his fist at the sky or pounded his fist on the table to make a point and so forth. A precise technique for shooting his webs means he doesn't accidentally spray somebody just because he shook their hand or blew his nose.
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Post by zaku on May 30, 2019 5:27:01 GMT -5
I would think that if making a fist triggered his webs, then he'd have his webs going off unintentionally every time he threw a punch or crumpled something up in his hand or shook his fist at the sky or pounded his fist on the table to make a point and so forth. A precise technique for shooting his webs means he doesn't accidentally spray somebody just because he shook their hand or blew his nose. I remember in some handbook that he has to do a double tap to shoot the web. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 5:55:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 5:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by rberman on May 30, 2019 7:18:09 GMT -5
Spider-Man's web shooters should be biological, not mechanical. I don't care how smart teen Peter Parker is. He would not have access to the parts needed to build such a specialized device, certainly not in any short span of time. R&D on web fluid would similarly take a long time. Are we to understand that the web fluid is made from household components that a perpetually broke teenager would have access to? And that rather than sell this wonder-fluid to industry ("Super-Duct Tape, coming soon to a Home Depot near you!"), Peter chooses to let Aunt May live on the brink of foreclosure? Any villain fighting Spider-Man would immediately attack his wrists first, destroying the fragile triggers if not the whole bracelet. Any villain who knocks Spider-Man unconscious or captures him would immediately remove the bracelets to sell on the black market. How can Spider-Man ever grab anything with his hand if "the slightest pressure" on the wrist-mounted triggers will shoot the fluid? He wouldn't even be able to grab a web to swing on it.
Better to appeal to superhero magic and say he has some kind of glands in his wrists that he can activate by thought, combined with the appropriate and distinctive two-finger movement. Doesn't require tech that raises lots of questions. Doesn't get broken, lost, or stolen. Sam Raimi was right on this.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 30, 2019 9:12:36 GMT -5
Sam Raimi was right on this. I thought so too, because the film version required fewer stretches of the imagination. Organic web-shooters come with the package that includes clinging to walls, great strength and agility and a sharp sense of danger. That's the only impossible (or extremely unlikely) thing we have to accept: that the bite of irradiated spiders can give one spider-like abilities. With the original concept we must accept that idea, plus the fact that Peter Parker is a chemistry whiz who can create an astonishing glue in his basement, plus that he's also an engineering whiz who can devise the device to shoot it in a way that resembles a spider's dragline, plus the fact that the boy will never manage to find a way to market it despite being a genius. Those are the kinds of details we accept in comic-books, but for a lay audience it's better to keep it as simple as possible. The two fingers gesture also makes a lot of sense if that's simply the position the wrist must be in for the glands to spit out their webbing, as per the movie's demonstration! However, mechanical or organic, I much prefer the web-shooters to be located on the inside of the arm than on the back of the hand, as was briefly the case when the black costume was introduced! |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 30, 2019 9:13:31 GMT -5
^ Boooooo
If you can allow your imagination to accept magical biological powers to be the explanation, surely you can allow it to accept a teenager having advance intelligence and crafting up such a cool mechanical device. To me, this part of Peter Parker/Spider-Man set him apart from other heroes who just "were born with" their abilities.
As for the "I love you" hand gesture to get the trigger to work...it was the 60's. Peace, love and Spider-Man.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 30, 2019 9:15:42 GMT -5
However, mechanical or organic, I much prefer the web-shooters to be located on the inside of the arm than on the back of the hand, as was briefly the case when the black costume was introduced! That I agree with. You would be dangling from the wrist/hand whereas the original position at least allows you to grab the webbing like a rope. The black suit design surely caused some form of carpel tunnel or something which is why Peter never stuck with it. |
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Post by tarkintino on May 30, 2019 9:45:10 GMT -5
So why does Spidey not make a full fist to shoot his web? I'm pretty sure the artistic reason is that the classic two-finger press looks cooler than a full fist (maybe Ditko was already working on Dr Strange and was already in mind of weird hand motions?), but is there an in-universe explanation for why he doesn't make a full fist? Maybe it's just me, but I cannot make that motion without dragging my pinky down. I love this board. Where else are you going to find a discussion on Spider-Man's finger positioning for his web-shooters? In the 1967-70 Spider-Man cartoon, he used different finger positions. From the open palm--  ...to all four fingers closed, but not really touching the area where the trigger is located--  ...then, there's the three-fingered activation--  ...and the source for that, taken straight from the Ditko-era comics--  So, even in adaptations, there was not much consistency, at least not until the Romita era really popularized the "love" sign language position, and from that point, that's what was seen in licensing art and nearly all animated series to follow. |
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