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Post by brutalis on Jan 23, 2020 8:59:49 GMT -5
So then boys and girls and cranky old folks of the CCF, I pose to you all: who are your 4 FAVORITE stalwart classic artists that DC and Marvel considered as their go to guys in time of need? During the heyday of monthly sales in the later 60's, 70's and 80's when the companies had to fulfill monthly scheduled orders to distributors across the country. These were not your flashy, stylistic fan favorite individuals bursting forth on the scene. These are the artistic talents which the BIG 2 relied upon for filling the void when those others fell behind or were unable to produce on a monthly basis. The ever consistently reliable and capable artist, who while producing their own singular series were also able to create quickly done fill-in issues at a moments notice alongside covering other urgent needs. These were the talented artists many ridicule or consider as lesser talents. In the eyes of many of us though, they were the binding glue which held the companies together every month where we saw their skills in 3 or more different comic series. People who were in many ways, some of the greatest talents, but they never quite received the accolades for their skills.
The likes of Dick Ayers, Sal Buscema, Curt Swan, Don Heck, Irv Novick, George Tuska, Bob Brown, Herb Trimpe, Don Perlin, Jim Mooney, Frank Springer, Mike Vosburg and others. These were the true heroes whenever the Dreaded Deadline Doom's ugly head would appear. Where others failed, these artists endured and thrived gifting us fans with many wonderful comics. I know there are others I may have forgotten, but the above folks were a major part of my comic book reading life growing up during the 70's and into the 80's. They all deserve the spotlight and admiration for their efforts in behalf of the monthly reader!
My top 4 would be: Sal Buscema, Don Heck, George Tuska and Herb Trimpe. Each had phenomenal runs of their own and managed to produce a regular monthly comic while stepping up in emergencies to fill-in and keep the monthly schedule. Sal could be found in ANY series at any time for Marvel as he was their main provider for filling holes but he also earned his own fame with Avengers and Spider-Man and Thor work over the years. Heck made his mark with Iron Man and Avengers at Marvel and Flash and Wonder Woman over at DC as well. Tuska proved his worth on Iron Man, Hero For Hire, Avengers, World's Greatest Super-Heroes in the newspaper. For Trimpe there was Hulk, Defenders, Godzilla alongside appearances all over other Marvel series showing off his skills.
Honorable mention to Curt Swan who was THE STEADFAST/GREAT Superman artist and yet I could see his art appearing all over DC. And for Irv Novick whose Flash and Batman I grew up reading while spotting him elsewhere amid DC war issues.
Reveal and discuss your choices my fellow CCF members...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 9:47:46 GMT -5
I voted for Irv Novick and Herb Trimpe. Mostly for their great runs on Batman, Flash and Hulk.
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Post by rberman on Jan 23, 2020 9:53:47 GMT -5
I vote Curt Swan. He was easy to recognize, but unlike workhorses like Sal Buscema and Dick Dillin, I never grew to dread his work as stereotyped and cliched.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 23, 2020 10:08:43 GMT -5
I voted for Sal B. who was a huge part of my comics reading when I was growing up, with long runs on Hulk and Rom and many, any others. My other vote went to Mike Vosburg. One of my earliest comics, a Tigra comic inked by Ernie Chan, looks superb. His Savage She-Hulk, which is always overlooked in favor of John Byrne's postmodern interpretation, is solid. He drew some nice ladies!  |
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Post by MDG on Jan 23, 2020 10:26:59 GMT -5
I went Heck, Novick, Swan and "other" for Jack Sparling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 11:33:35 GMT -5
Tough one, but has to be Curt Swan. Never tired of seeing his art.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 23, 2020 12:20:46 GMT -5
Curt Swan was an incredible draftsman, a savvy storyteller, and more-or-less inker-proof (the only inker I feel didn't mesh well with Swan was Jack Able) so he's my top choice. I also checked off Sal Buscema and Don Heck, although their track records are spottier than Swan's. I considered choosing Trimpe (his layouts can be brilliant, even if his figure work is wonky) or Tuska (for the raw power of his fight scenes), but they both fall short of the three I voted for. Funnily enough, I have a ton of Ayers' comics despite not liking his work much at all (unless inked by John Severin or the aforementioned Abel).
Cei-U!
I summon the workhorses!
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 23, 2020 12:22:12 GMT -5
Swan, Norvick, and Buscema.
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Post by Bronze age andy on Jan 23, 2020 12:41:30 GMT -5
Sal Buscema, Don Heck, George Tuska and Jim Mooney (I've always dug his Marvel Team Up work)
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 23, 2020 12:46:52 GMT -5
So then boys and girls and cranky old folks of the CCF, I pose to you all: who are your 4 FAVORITE stalwart classic artists that DC and Marvel considered as their go to guys in time of need? During the heyday of monthly sales in the later 60's, 70's and 80's when the companies had to fulfill monthly scheduled orders to distributors across the country. These were not your flashy, stylistic fan favorite individuals bursting forth on the scene. These are the artistic talents which the BIG 2 relied upon for filling the void when those others fell behind or were unable to produce on a monthly basis. The ever consistently reliable and capable artist, who while producing their own singular series were also able to create quickly done fill-in issues at a moments notice alongside covering other urgent needs. These were the talented artists many ridicule or consider as lesser talents. In the eyes of many of us though, they were the binding glue which held the companies together every month where we saw their skills in 3 or more different comic series. People who were in many ways, some of the greatest talents, but they never quite received the accolades for their skills. The likes of Dick Ayers, Sal Buscema, Curt Swan, Don Heck, Irv Novick, George Tuska, Bob Brown, Herb Trimpe, Don Perlin, Jim Mooney, Frank Springer, Mike Vosburg and others. These were the true heroes whenever the Dreaded Deadline Doom's ugly head would appear. Where others failed, these artists endured and thrived gifting us fans with many wonderful comics. I know there are others I may have forgotten, but the above folks were a major part of my comic book reading life growing up during the 70's and into the 80's. They all deserve the spotlight and admiration for their efforts in behalf of the monthly reader! My top 4 would be: Sal Buscema, Don Heck, George Tuska and Herb Trimpe. Each had phenomenal runs of their own and managed to produce a regular monthly comic while stepping up in emergencies to fill-in and keep the monthly schedule. Sal could be found in ANY series at any time for Marvel as he was their main provider for filling holes but he also earned his own fame with Avengers and Spider-Man and Thor work over the years. Heck made his mark with Iron Man and Avengers at Marvel and Flash and Wonder Woman over at DC as well. Tuska proved his worth on Iron Man, Hero For Hire, Avengers, World's Greatest Super-Heroes in the newspaper. For Trimpe there was Hulk, Defenders, Godzilla alongside appearances all over other Marvel series showing off his skills. Honorable mention to Curt Swan who was THE STEADFAST/GREAT Superman artist and yet I could see his art appearing all over DC. And for Irv Novick whose Flash and Batman I grew up reading while spotting him elsewhere amid DC war issues. Reveal and discuss your choices my fellow CCF members... I would not consider Novick a "go-to" artist, as he became the most prominent interior artist on Batman pre-Adams (roughly #204 - #231), not to mention delivering a large number of covers for Batman and Detective Comics. It was through his pencil that the darker, serious Batman came roaring back in the late 1960s. Trimpe is another I would not place in that category, as he was the defining Hulk artist from the point of the character getting his own title again, becoming the penciller on The Incredible Hulk #106 (August, 1968) through #136 (December, 1975). That's an undeniable "era" for an artist on a title. While Trimpe did fill-in on other titles, he was as connected to the Hulk as Romita was to The Amazing Spider-Man or Kirby to the Fantastic Four. |
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Post by berkley on Jan 23, 2020 13:06:35 GMT -5
I admit that I unthinkingly just voted for the ones I liked best, not the ones I thought best fit the "reliable" qualifier: so I went with Mooney, Trimpe, Perlin, ... and keeping the 4th spot open in case I think of someone else.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 23, 2020 13:12:46 GMT -5
I voted Heck, Swan, Trimpe and Tuska.
I nominated Tuska as artist of the year in the Academy of Comic Book Arts' Shazam awards for 1973. Or was it 1972?
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Post by brutalis on Jan 23, 2020 13:20:10 GMT -5
True enough that several had their defining moments upon a regular serie(s) they drew, but they were still major pinch hitters that writers or editors would regularly go to or ask for specific fill in stories. Swan, Trimpe, Novick all had their primary monthly, but were also asked regularly to substitute. It was glorious to open a comic and find unexpectedly some Swan, Novick or Trimpe interiors where you lease thought of finding them.
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 23, 2020 13:41:45 GMT -5
Sal Buscema, Don Heck, George Tuska and Jim Mooney (I've always dug his Marvel Team Up work) Good point. I've just added a vote for Mooney as well. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 23, 2020 14:29:06 GMT -5
Okay, going to try and spread votes out and go for Jim Mooney (whom I genuinely really like as both penciller and inker), Frank Springer (very solid, sort of depends on the inker he gets sometimes, but I've never complained about his quality drawing), and Bob Brown (don't have so much of his, not sure if he always made the deadlines or not, but I really did enjoy what I saw and nobody had voted him yet)... and Joe Kubert... he's who I first thought of as Mr. Reliable! But I guess maybe he is too much of a collected fave for this? Okay, then transfer that to Win Mortimer.
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