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Post by james on May 14, 2020 8:49:07 GMT -5
Most violent scene in classic Marvel and DC? I only ask because I was reading a recent Batman Jim Gordon says , I'm paraphrasing, "I should shoot you in the head." Now of course he does not but it made me start to think, what scenes pushed the limits of the comics code authority in this area. For me the shooting of Barbara Gordon in Killing Joke.
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Post by tartanphantom on May 14, 2020 8:58:30 GMT -5
Wow. This is going to be pretty subjective. Are we talking actual code-approved books, or just "code-era" books? Because I'm pretty sure that Killing Joke was not code-approved, as it was a direct-sales only book. I certainly can't argue with the violence in that particular issue, but the as far as actual code-approved books go, first one off the top of my head is DC's 12-issue run of "The Shadow" back in the early 1970's, scripted by Denny O'Neil. While it was not necessarily gruesome, it was pretty graphic (and sometimes felt simply gratuitous) at many points. Looking forward to see what other books people mention here. |
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Post by tarkintino on May 14, 2020 9:08:41 GMT -5
Not sure if the following pushed the limits of the Comics Code, but The Amazing Spider-Man #122's finale with the original Green Goblin being impaled by his Goblin Glider (with appropriate sound effect) while it sputtered trying to move forward into his chest was incredibly violent and gruesome for a superhero comic.
War comics have always played it as close to reality as they could with people being shot, or caught in an explosion, etc. On that note for superheroes, the retcon of Bucky's death with the explosion of the drone plane was shockingly violent, as most depictions of it had his flailing body blasted from behind, with tattered clothes, and one--I believe from What If--had the explosion go off on a medium of his face while he still gripped the bomb.
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Post by james on May 14, 2020 9:25:36 GMT -5
Wow. This is going to be pretty subjective. Are we talking actual code-approved books, or just "code-era" books? Because I'm pretty sure that Killing Joke was not code-approved, as it was a direct-sales only book. I certainly can't argue with the violence in that particular issue, but the as far as actual code-approved books go, first one off the top of my head is DC's 12-issue run of "The Shadow" back in the early 1970's, scripted by Denny O'Neil. While it was not necessarily gruesome, it was pretty graphic (and sometimes felt simply gratuitous) at many points. Looking forward to see what other books people mention here. Good point. When I mentioned Killing Joke i was thinking it may not be part of "the Code" So I guess I was thinking Marvel and DC and their key characters. |
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Post by MDG on May 14, 2020 9:45:16 GMT -5
I seem to remember being shocked at a panel--maybe full page splash--in an issue of Warlord where Morgan shoves his sword through a character's ears.
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Post by shaxper on May 14, 2020 10:03:18 GMT -5
The Fleischer/Aparo Spectre stories in Adventure Comics. The entire fun of the run was finding creative ways to circumvent the comics code while being as gruesome as possible.
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Post by shaxper on May 14, 2020 10:04:57 GMT -5
Or, if we are going more the route of psychologically disturbing, I'd say the Gaiman Sandman story where a struggling author has captured and is repeatedly raping Caliope. Nothing graphic, but man did that story mess me up.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 14, 2020 10:20:33 GMT -5
Or, if we are going more the route of psychologically disturbing, I'd say the Gaiman Sandman story where a struggling author has captured and is repeatedly raping Caliope. Nothing graphic, but man did that story mess me up. To be fair, the ending where he can't get all his ideas down on paper gets a bit gory. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 14, 2020 12:55:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure post-code comics are in the spirit of the question, because from that point on many writers tried to outdo each other in the gory/violent department... but still, these examples were particularly brutal:
gore: Sentry ripping Ares in two, vertically, with his innards being splattered everywhere. That happend in Siege.
psychological violence: Jessica Jones' ordeal at the hands of Killgrave, in Alias.
Funny because it's just too much: pretty much every violent gag from Preacher, from having one's jaw shot off by a gun (and then looking quizzically around) to getting a nailed board stuck on the side of one's head and off-handedly saying "kinda different". I'm not even getting into the sexual mutilations.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 13:20:31 GMT -5
I think my Caligula HC takes the cake for violence  |
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Post by james on May 14, 2020 13:20:56 GMT -5
Another is xmen 142 Wolverine gets skin fried from his skeleton and Ororo get a spear in mid flight. At 12 when I saw this it really got to me.
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Post by badwolf on May 14, 2020 13:24:12 GMT -5
The Needle sewing people's lips together in Spider-Woman #9.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 14, 2020 13:45:45 GMT -5
Man, I'm glad I bailed on comics before most of this stuff saw the light of day.
Wasn't there a Joker story where he somehow slices off his own face or something?
And I thought Mars Attacks and the Civil War cards were pushing the envelope back in 1962.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 13:54:43 GMT -5
Both Ennis and Aaron served me well with comic violence in their runs of Punisher MAX. I make no apologies for liking some of my books to be grimy and gritty.
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Post by MDG on May 14, 2020 14:04:51 GMT -5
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