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Post by fanboystranger on May 19, 2015 11:08:15 GMT -5
Looking at getting into the Flash, was considering starting with Johns' run #164-225 or so. Best place to start or is there a better starting point than his work? I think it's fine to start there. Johns' first arc was a bit weaker than the rest of his pre-200 stuff, but he finds a groove pretty quickly when Scott Kolins makes his great artistic leap forward. Honestly, though, I think you can start anywhere pre-200, and you're going to find good stories. The Flash was DC's second most consistantly good ongoing after Hellblazer in that time period.
After 200, it's a different story. The first arc, Ignition, is pretty good, but all in all, the run really slips when Kolins leaves. There are still some good Rogue-centric issues that are worth tracking down, though.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 19, 2015 13:13:52 GMT -5
Man I just don't get it. In much the same way I thought that John's JSA was the worst that title had ever been, I thought Johns Flash was the worst the title has ever been - Especially considering that Flash (2nd Series) was a pretty consistently great book until it turned into a Geoff Johns book - Predictable, violent, generic-to-poor characterization, always ending on a cliffhanger that you can usually see coming - with the added twist that everything interesting about Wally was shelved to turn him into a Barry clone.
I liked Captain Cold, though. I would read a Johns Captain Cold book.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 13:24:41 GMT -5
Looking at getting into the Flash, was considering starting with Johns' run #164-225 or so. Best place to start or is there a better starting point than his work? I prefer Mark Waid's run head and shoulders over Johns. However the Waid collections are long out of print. And I'll add my voice to the Jonny Quest love. I am currently working on completing the series but the ones I have area a visual treat. -M |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 19, 2015 16:02:24 GMT -5
Looking at getting into the Flash, was considering starting with Johns' run #164-225 or so. Best place to start or is there a better starting point than his work? I prefer Mark Waid's run head and shoulders over Johns. However the Waid collections are long out of print. That's a shame. And it seems like the Messner Loeb or Mike Baron stuff never got collected? Man, I liked ALL that quite a lot - the Morrison/Millar fill-in year, too. I'd say start at vol. 2 # 1, and you'll have 150 + issues of goodness. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 19, 2015 16:14:42 GMT -5
I do think I will get some of the Mark Waid stuff, as I have also heard good things. I just picked up a smattering of Johns' issues..#164, 174, 175. #164 is a Captain Cold ish  |
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Post by dupersuper on May 20, 2015 0:17:15 GMT -5
Looking at getting into the Flash, was considering starting with Johns' run #164-225 or so. Best place to start or is there a better starting point than his work? I'd also recommend Waids run and maybe Mesner-Loebs run. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 0:11:16 GMT -5
Ok, so after Marvel ended Conan that Barbarian and before Dark Horse launched their Conan series, Marvel had several attempts to do something with the license/character. I am familiar with the Conan the Adventurer series and the short lived ongoing called simply Conan and its companion magazine Conan the Savage. But between 1998 and 2000 Marvel did a series of 3 issue mini series featuring Conan, many written by Roy Thomas (one reteaming him with John Buscema)that I vaguely remember when they came out and turns out I have a random issue of one or two of them, but some of the issues (particularly the #3s) can be a little pricey on Lonestar ($6-8). So before I shell out any cash for them, I was wondering if anyone here had read them and had opinions on them...
Specifically they were
Conan: Death Covered in Gold by Roy Thomas and John Buscema
Conan: Flame & the Fiend by Thomas and Geoff Isherwood
Conan: River of Blood by Roland Green (author of several Conan pastiche novels in the 90s) and Geoff Isherwood
Conan: The Scarlet Sword by Roy Thomas, Stefano Raffaelle & Ralph Cabrers
Conan the Barbarian Vol. 2 by Green, Claudio Castellini & Cabrera
Conan Lord of Spiders by Thomas/Raffaelle/Cabrera
and Conan: The Return of Styrm by Matt Nixon, Paolo Parente and Marco Soresina
all ran 3 issues. I have one of the Castellini CTB and it is the over-muscled steroid Conan art style I am not fond of, not quite as bad as the covers to Conan the Savage, but in that neighborhood, and I have part of Flame and the Fiend (that's the one I bought when it came out) and it's not bad, but again I am unfamiliar with the rest and they don't seem to be dollar box fare (likely because of small print runs and low orders at the time) and I am curious if they are worth hunting down for a Conan fan (though not necessarily a completist).
-M
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Post by Pharozonk on May 23, 2015 0:28:32 GMT -5
Looking at getting into the Flash, was considering starting with Johns' run #164-225 or so. Best place to start or is there a better starting point than his work? Johns had a decent run, but it pales in comparison to Messner-Loebs and Waid before him. There are some good stories in there, but the gore level can be a bit of a turn off at times so be warned. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 23, 2015 8:44:40 GMT -5
I have a couple of those Conan minis.... Death Covered in Gold an the Flame and the Fiend, I think. I remember when they came out being disappointed in them, but I can't really say why, and I don't think I've read them again.
I don't think I'd pay more than $1 bin prices for them.
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 29, 2015 22:02:19 GMT -5
Reading Rebels has me thinking about DMZ... any thoughts? Sounds like it could be either really good or really preachy.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 29, 2015 22:14:26 GMT -5
Reading Rebels has me thinking about DMZ... any thoughts? Sounds like it could be either really good or really preachy. I didn't like it. I just couldn't wrap my mind around the scenario. Couldn't suspend my disbelief and get in to it. |
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Post by hondobrode on May 29, 2015 22:27:39 GMT -5
I loved DMZ.
It wasn't really that much of a stretch as far as dystopian stories go.
I'd recommend it.
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Post by berkley on May 29, 2015 22:37:51 GMT -5
I'm a huge Brubaker fan, and for the life of me I don't know how I missed Catwoman when it was coming out. There was a lot of great stuff coming out around this time so I suppose it just got lost but still, I'm surprised at myself. Haven't been on this thread in a while, but I'll say that Bru's run on Catwoman was epic. In fact, it's the definitive Catwoman in my mind, along with great artwork by Paul Gulacy  I bought the Gulacy Catwoman run for the artwork. Not his best, but still better than almost everyone else around at the time. The inking didn't look quite right to me, IIRC. The writing was only so-so, for me. Didn't remember it was Brubaker, or probably I hadn't heard of him back then, when I was still in the earlier stages of learning about current-day Marvel and DC. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on May 29, 2015 22:39:18 GMT -5
So I doubt I will ever be able to have a complete X-Men run from when the title was at its best through the 70's and into the 80's
However, I do have the opportunity to snag up a pretty solid run of New Mutants. Worth it? Is the earliest stuff the best or the later stuff? And how does it stack up? I am not a huge fan of "young superheroes". What I mean is, I don't love it if my superheroes are kids. Teen Titans, while I admit I have not read enough to make much an opinion, has never grabbed me enough to collect more.
I figure I may get the first 10 issues or so and see. Unless there is a better starting point...thoughts?
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Post by hondobrode on May 29, 2015 22:57:25 GMT -5
There's some really good reading in New Mutants. I agree mostly with not caring so much about kid superheroes, and Teen Titans was good those 4 years or so and I've never recaptured that magic again. Never bought, or was interested in New Warriors or Young Justice, but, Legion of Super-Heroes post-Superboy is a favorite. Claremont was pretty good as was McLeod, Sienkiewicz, Weezie Simonson, Bret Blevins, and others. I'm not nearly the X-fan I was in the 80's, but I'd still re-read these. They were pretty good. There's a run in there in the 40's I really like where Butch Guice was penciling and Kyle Baker inked and it was really nice with some nice Barry Windsor-Smith covers.   |
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