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Post by brutalis on Feb 19, 2021 10:29:36 GMT -5
Old age is the great equalizer when it comes to reading or viewing things. As the brain grows ever dimmer in our twilight what was remembered is forgotten and new again. Plus, repeat viewing means seeing things in a new light or experiencing or interpreting things differently once you have time to ponder upon them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 14:30:41 GMT -5
There's a post-(mid) credit scene this week (Ep 7), so make sure you stay with it.
-M
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 19, 2021 15:00:10 GMT -5
Just watched... the big reveal was way too easy... I definitely think they'll be another layer. I think they goofy yet awesome musical sequence was the hint.
Can this really be wrapped up in one more episode? Or has someone confirmed the speculation that Falcon and Winter Solider starts in 2 weeks because there's a 9th one?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 15:04:36 GMT -5
Just watched... the big reveal was way too easy... I definitely think they'll be another layer. I think they goofy yet awesome musical sequence was the hint. Can this really be wrapped up in one more episode? Or has someone confirmed the speculation that Falcon and Winter Solider starts in 2 weeks because there's a 9th one? There's a behind the scenes of Wandavision that airs the week between the end of Wandavision and the start of Falcon & Winter Soldier I believe. And they can resolve the Hex plot to end the show but leave plot points to be resolved in Wanda's next appearance in Doc Strange 2, including dealing with the big bad whoever it turns out to be. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 19, 2021 17:34:58 GMT -5
They COULD, but that would be massively disappointing. Especially considering the buzz Wandavision is getting, to leave people hanging for that long might not go over so well with the new fans they're surely picking up.
As mentioned earlier, half the fun is the speculation, and if you ruin that by not answering anything, the next time people might not come along for the ride.
If it was just a couple months it'd be one thing, but a full year (at least...based on the fact that there's not even a cast list to speak of yet, seems likely to be delayed), isn't how you capitalize on that buzz.
Could be the popularity of the show is a surprise though, and perhaps that'll be what happens.
INcidently, one of the few cast members that ARE listed for Doctor Strange is America Chavez... guess that's why she got a series? (or maybe it's all about the pitch). Makes me wonder if Reptil (who I like alot from the Initiative era, but who weird is getting a mini this spring) is going to turn up in one of the movies soon.
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Post by spoon on Feb 19, 2021 18:40:16 GMT -5
Just watched... the big reveal was way too easy... I definitely think they'll be another layer. I think they goofy yet awesome musical sequence was the hint. Can this really be wrapped up in one more episode? Or has someone confirmed the speculation that Falcon and Winter Solider starts in 2 weeks because there's a 9th one? WandaVision has 9 episodes, so there are 2 more left (Feb. 26 and March 5). The behind-the-scenes documentary is March 12. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier premieres March 19. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 21:38:40 GMT -5
I'm sure that {Spoiler: Click to show}"It was Agatha all the time..." was just a feint. I'm guessing that we'll get the big bad reveal just in time for him to disappear into the multiverse and set up Doctor Strange 2. And we still have that "Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian" level cameo to come. Is it Doctor Strange? Or is that not big enough? Despite it being a success, I still think they've save a lot for the movies. |
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Post by Randle-El on Feb 19, 2021 23:04:41 GMT -5
I'm sure that {Spoiler: Click to show}"It was Agatha all the time..." was just a feint. I'm guessing that we'll get the big bad reveal just in time for him to disappear into the multiverse and set up Doctor Strange 2. And we still have that "Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian" level cameo to come. Is it Doctor Strange? Or is that not big enough? Despite it being a success, I still think they've save a lot for the movies. {Spoiler: Click to show}
I was under the impression that the massive cameo was Evan Peters as Quicksilver. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 23:27:23 GMT -5
I'm sure that {Spoiler: Click to show}"It was Agatha all the time..." was just a feint. I'm guessing that we'll get the big bad reveal just in time for him to disappear into the multiverse and set up Doctor Strange 2. And we still have that "Luke Skywalker in the Mandalorian" level cameo to come. Is it Doctor Strange? Or is that not big enough? Despite it being a success, I still think they've save a lot for the movies. {Spoiler: Click to show}I was under the impression that the massive cameo was Evan Peters as Quicksilver. Mileage may very, but Paul Bettany gave an interview and said {Spoiler: Click to show}"This is the theory that says there is some mysterious Avenger who is going to appear in WandaVision, and people seem to think that mysterious Avenger is Doctor Strange. Truth is, of all of the characters that we were trying to keep secret, a lot of them got out through leaks. There is one character that has not been revealed and it is very exciting, it's an actor I've longed to work with all of my life. We have some amazing scenes together, and the chemistry between us is, I think, extraordinary, and it was just fireworks on set. So I'm really excited for people to see that stuff." Evan Peters was one of the leaks, so I still think we're in for another suprise. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 20, 2021 10:17:54 GMT -5
That's exciting! I thought I'd heard Falcon and Winter Soldier was starting in two weeks, but I'm glad to be wrong, because they definitely need 2 episodes (or I guess one can jsut be as long as they want) to get to a decent ending.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 11:06:38 GMT -5
They COULD, but that would be massively disappointing. Especially considering the buzz Wandavision is getting, to leave people hanging for that long might not go over so well with the new fans they're surely picking up. The entire MO of the MCU has been to set things up that don't get paid off until years down the line, it's what fans seem to want out of the MCU, so I doubt the majority of the fanbase will be disappointed if that is the case. And the problem with fan speculation is often that fans stop reacting to the show/movie based on what it is and it's qualities good or bad and instead react entirely based on how it meets or fails to meet their speculative (and often unrealistic or unfounded) expectation creating their own disappointment in the material. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 20, 2021 12:46:05 GMT -5
That can happen, sure, but in this case, it seems like the nature of THIS particular show is that the speculation has been all the fun. And while the interconnectedness of the MCU has been great, it wasn't a cliffhanger...we KNEW Thanos was coming... he took a while to get here, but we knew it was happening. That's all the difference between speculating in a fun way on the how, and having to wait too long for a pay off, IMO. People's mileage may vary, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 14:49:03 GMT -5
That can happen, sure, but in this case, it seems like the nature of THIS particular show is that the speculation has been all the fun. And while the interconnectedness of the MCU has been great, it wasn't a cliffhanger...we KNEW Thanos was coming... he took a while to get here, but we knew it was happening. That's all the difference between speculating in a fun way on the how, and having to wait too long for a pay off, IMO. People's mileage may vary, of course. If the hex plot is resolved and Harkness defeated, and we learn that there was something/someone else behind it that looms as a future threat-how is that different than Loki and the Chitauri being defeated in Avengers and learning Thanos was behind it and looming as a future threat? That's not speculation. Guessing how the Avengers reverse the snap between Infinity War and Endgame was speculation. And they're were people who got pissed and craping on Endgame because it didn't use the solution they had guessed, i.e. they set up their own discontent because they judged the movie based on their speculation not based on what it actually was. And it is happening for Wandavision as well. I see so many people pissing and moaning the astrophysicist wasn't Reed Richards and this has ruined the show for them because Marvel didn't do what they thought they were going to do or promised they were going to do. Where anywhere in the show was there any indication that it was going to introduce the FF? In any of the press for the show? No. It was pure fan speculation based on what they wanted rather than what had been indicated or promised, but now some fans are pissed at the show runners because they didn't fulfill the promise of the astrophysicist. What promise? If you say to someone I want you to do something and they don't do it, they haven't broken a promise, you've just placed unrealistic expectations on them and then got disappointed they didn't fulfill those expectations. The payoff of that scene with the astrophysicist was that the vehicle was designed on the specs Monica made earlier in the series and then it failed because Wanda's hex was stronger than she factored into her calculations. Not every scientist has to be a known MCU character, but fans speculated it was, ran with that, blew it out of proportion, and then got disappointed because they set up their own dissatisfaction. Sure fan speculation is part of the fun, but when it becomes something that taints your own enjoyment of the show if you aren't right, then it's a problem. Not the show's problem, the fan's problem, but they don't own their own role in the disappointment so the show has to bear the brunt of their disappointment. -M |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 20, 2021 22:01:20 GMT -5
That's exactly what I mean.. if that's where they go with it an end with us knowing who the big bad guy was, but having the resolution of that in the movie that's totally fine. Leaving it hanging who (or whether or not there is someone else) would be disappointing.
People that get THAT wrapped up in their own theories are rarely going to be happy anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:21:52 GMT -5
That's exactly what I mean.. if that's where they go with it an end with us knowing who the big bad guy was, but having the resolution of that in the movie that's totally fine. Leaving it hanging who (or whether or not there is someone else) would be disappointing. People that get THAT wrapped up in their own theories are rarely going to be happy anyway. I won't say that people like that are the norm, but they are by far the most vocal and most visible type of fan on social media and because of that act as influences on a lot of other fans/audience members making that type of thinking/reacting far more prevalent than it should be, to the detriment of fandom as a whole. But unfortunately because they are influences in the modern sense, they have an inordinately large role in shaping the whole of fandom, which is part of the reason why so much of fandom has become so toxic over the last decade or so (not that there weren't toxic elements prior to that, but they have become far more visible and influential over the last decade). -M |
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