Post by Roquefort Raider on Aug 4, 2021 13:44:15 GMT -5
I think I'm the only one who found that finale disappointing. I don't mind the choice of villain at all, nor do I mind leaving so much on a cliffhanger for season two, but there were some fundamental issues that I felt weren't resolved very well by the close.
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Let me try to get a no-prize!
1. Okay, so we see why "Kang" created the TVA, but why the false mythology of the three time-keepers, and why the wild 1960s aesthetic from a guy who is from the 32nd century? Don't tell me it's just the look/feel of the show, because that aesthetic doesn't follow to "Kang"'s office, nor to the place where the pruned are sent.
Real reason: I get it just looked cool and "intemporal", being clearly anachronistic. In-universe, perhaps one of the architects of the TVA that Kang recruited across time was from the mid-20th century? An alternate timeline Howard Stark, perhaps? The three time-keepers reminded me of the Time Twisters we met in Thor way back when, but it's true that there is no particular reason for such a charade; perhaps we are culturally used to trinities running the show?
2. Are we never going to revisit the fact that the very crimes for which the TVA were hunting Sylvie aren't her m.o. at all? She has been running to ends of worlds, not showing up in ancient Earth to kill, pose as the devil, and give candy to frightened children. That really needed to be tidied up by the season finale. How hard would it have been for "Kang" to say, "Oh yeah, that was actually an alternate version of me that desperately needs to be stopped. Sorry you got dragged into this."
Yeah, I agree. It would even have added pathos to Sylvie's plight, as she'd have learned that the enemy she wanted to take revenge on wasn't even the good one!
3. It also seemed extremely clear by the fifth episode that the TVA only went after Lokis who were successful in life/attained some level of contentment. That was a very provocative thing to put out there, only to utterly contradict it one episode later: Nope, it really is just about preventing alternate timelines. How very disappointing.
I suspect that these other Lokis, not guilty of tempering with the sacred timeline, were not direct targets of the TVA at first; they just became targets when they escaped the pruning of their timeline (because Lokis always escape, or so we're told). What caused their timeline to be created in the first place could have been something completely unrelated to them.
That explanation doesn't work for Sylvie, because we see TVA agents abducting her from Asgard; she was their primary target in that particular case.
4. Why WHY can't a healthy romance exist in TV just once without writers having to strain it in order to introduce new conflict? Why can't these two be in love, be totally one, and still be fighting for their destinies and for the fate of the universe? Instead, the writers turn them on each other at the first opportunity.
I agree, and it would also allow the writers to explore the theme of narcissism. Can Loki really love anyone but himself?
5. The TVA is supposed to be a massive bureaucracy, so why does it seem like only eight people work for it? Loki shows up in an alternate TVA, and the first person he runs into is Morpheus, somehow.
Mmmmh... Hermione Granger had a gizmo allowing her to use time-displaced versions of herself to do more homework, right? It could be the same thing here. Or we only ever saw one small section of the TVA, where Loki returns by default.
As for what was revealed, meh. It wasn't particularly interesting to me, certainly not a worthwhile reward for six weeks of mystery. Heck, I actually nodded off a few times while the camera kept carefully moving in and out on "Kang", and Amber passed out completely. We'd both been rivetted to our seats to the point that we'd lost all awareness of time and of ourselves for the past four episodes.
I have a hard time of judging that revelation, because we comics readers know who Kang is, but to a casual viewer he's just a random fellow who set up the TVA. It's not very dramatic or anything.
Let me try to get a no-prize!
1. Okay, so we see why "Kang" created the TVA, but why the false mythology of the three time-keepers, and why the wild 1960s aesthetic from a guy who is from the 32nd century? Don't tell me it's just the look/feel of the show, because that aesthetic doesn't follow to "Kang"'s office, nor to the place where the pruned are sent.
Real reason: I get it just looked cool and "intemporal", being clearly anachronistic. In-universe, perhaps one of the architects of the TVA that Kang recruited across time was from the mid-20th century? An alternate timeline Howard Stark, perhaps? The three time-keepers reminded me of the Time Twisters we met in Thor way back when, but it's true that there is no particular reason for such a charade; perhaps we are culturally used to trinities running the show?
2. Are we never going to revisit the fact that the very crimes for which the TVA were hunting Sylvie aren't her m.o. at all? She has been running to ends of worlds, not showing up in ancient Earth to kill, pose as the devil, and give candy to frightened children. That really needed to be tidied up by the season finale. How hard would it have been for "Kang" to say, "Oh yeah, that was actually an alternate version of me that desperately needs to be stopped. Sorry you got dragged into this."
Yeah, I agree. It would even have added pathos to Sylvie's plight, as she'd have learned that the enemy she wanted to take revenge on wasn't even the good one!
3. It also seemed extremely clear by the fifth episode that the TVA only went after Lokis who were successful in life/attained some level of contentment. That was a very provocative thing to put out there, only to utterly contradict it one episode later: Nope, it really is just about preventing alternate timelines. How very disappointing.
I suspect that these other Lokis, not guilty of tempering with the sacred timeline, were not direct targets of the TVA at first; they just became targets when they escaped the pruning of their timeline (because Lokis always escape, or so we're told). What caused their timeline to be created in the first place could have been something completely unrelated to them.
That explanation doesn't work for Sylvie, because we see TVA agents abducting her from Asgard; she was their primary target in that particular case.
4. Why WHY can't a healthy romance exist in TV just once without writers having to strain it in order to introduce new conflict? Why can't these two be in love, be totally one, and still be fighting for their destinies and for the fate of the universe? Instead, the writers turn them on each other at the first opportunity.
I agree, and it would also allow the writers to explore the theme of narcissism. Can Loki really love anyone but himself?
5. The TVA is supposed to be a massive bureaucracy, so why does it seem like only eight people work for it? Loki shows up in an alternate TVA, and the first person he runs into is Morpheus, somehow.
Mmmmh... Hermione Granger had a gizmo allowing her to use time-displaced versions of herself to do more homework, right? It could be the same thing here. Or we only ever saw one small section of the TVA, where Loki returns by default.
As for what was revealed, meh. It wasn't particularly interesting to me, certainly not a worthwhile reward for six weeks of mystery. Heck, I actually nodded off a few times while the camera kept carefully moving in and out on "Kang", and Amber passed out completely. We'd both been rivetted to our seats to the point that we'd lost all awareness of time and of ourselves for the past four episodes.
I have a hard time of judging that revelation, because we comics readers know who Kang is, but to a casual viewer he's just a random fellow who set up the TVA. It's not very dramatic or anything.
I really enjoyed the series as a whole, and especially how characters would have long conversations instead of punching people and monsters all the time. Sylvie is a great character; I didn't expect to like her so much!