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Post by impulse on Jan 31, 2022 9:04:49 GMT -5
I thought Black Panther was awesome, and definitely not formulaic...I don't get it. I work in the videogame industry, and when Avatar came out, that's all I heard about every day, 8 hours a day, for a month. I never saw it, and probably never will. If you didn't see it when it was new in IMAX 3D there's no point in it seeing now. It was basically made specifically a as spectacle to be seen that way, and unless you've never seen a movie before, I doubt anything about it would be particularly impressive on Blu-ray or anything. As to the larger discussion on whether or not MCU movies are generic or not, I think the reality is a bit more nuanced. Yes, every story at it's most basic structure follows one of a handful of archetypes, so I hear the arguments that it's a bit reductive to say all the MCU movies are too similar if that is the only criterion used. Then again, the MCU movies specifically are using the same archetypal stories but presenting them with the same style, same humor, in the same universe with the same aesthetic and often some of the same characters and one after another. They definitely have more in common than sharing the same story archetype. Taken individually, I think pretty much all of them are at worst decent popcorn flicks and at best slightly exceed really good popcorn flicks, but it's easy to see how taken in context of yet another in an endless series they start feeling unremarkable. FWIW, I enjoyed all of the Marvel movies I've seen* at least somewhat except Thor The Dark World. I need to give it another shot and try to stay awake this time. *which is all but Black Widow, Eternals, and Spider Man No Way Home which I will get around to. I am just waiting for Spider Man to come onto streaming. |
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Post by Randle-El on Jan 31, 2022 10:40:34 GMT -5
FWIW, I enjoyed all of the Marvel movies I've seen* at least somewhat except Thor The Dark World. I need to give it another shot and try to stay awake this time. *which is all but Black Widow, Eternals, and Spider Man No Way Home which I will get around to. I am just waiting for Spider Man to come onto streaming.
In another thread, I remarked that Eternals was the MCU's The Last Jedi -- i.e., it's the polarizing entry that tried do something different in a franchise that followed some predictable patterns. I understood (and even agreed with) the motivation for going in a different direction, but ultimately felt that TLJ's execution didn't pay off (mostly because it mangled Luke Skywalker's character and revealed the downside of "filmmaking-by-committee"), whereas Eternals was a breath of fresh air. If you think the MCU is repetitive, you should see Eternals.
As for Spider-Man: No Way Home -- I had some reservations about the movie going in, and boy was I wrong. I won't necessarily say it's the best Spidey movie, but it's my personal favorite out of all the Sony-era films. To everyone who criticized MCU Spidey as being Tony Stark's sidekick, being too reliant on tech and fancy suits, deviating too much from the comic book canon... if No Way Home was always the endgame (no pun intended) for this first trilogy of MCU Spidey films, then I congratulate Sony for weathering these criticisms in patient silence. They did it in an unexpected way, but I think they ultimately gave us a Spidey that was very faithful in spirit and heart to the essence of the comic book character.
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Post by impulse on Jan 31, 2022 13:27:57 GMT -5
I'd like to add that while taken as yet another entry in the MCU Black Panther was not all that different from the others, it absolutely is noteworthy and deserves credit for making a black character a front-and-center hero and lead of a movie and for showing an African culture, even if a fictitious country.
Taken in the cultural context, it was absolutely more important than just a superhero movie. Representation matters, and in that context it is absolutely worthy of the praise it gets.
I believe it is important for kids to see heroes that look like them, and I am glad so many more now get that.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Feb 1, 2022 10:06:50 GMT -5
I'd like to add that while taken as yet another entry in the MCU Black Panther was not all that different from the others, it absolutely is noteworthy and deserves credit for making a black character a front-and-center hero and lead of a movie and for showing an African culture, even if a fictitious country. Taken in the cultural context, it was absolutely more important than just a superhero movie. Representation matters, and in that context it is absolutely worthy of the praise it gets. I believe it is important for kids to see heroes that look like them, and I am glad so many more now get that. Not only was the hero great representation, but also the villain as well. Killmonger wasn't just some thug, or a pimp or a drug dealer...but rather a multifaceted character with a legitimate issue that motivated him, how he went about seeking redress for the issue made him the villain of the movie but it was easy to see how if things were just a little different he could have easily been the hero of the film. |
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Post by impulse on Feb 1, 2022 10:33:42 GMT -5
Marvel has been pretty good about having villains in their movies who've got a point, even if they sometimes become cartoonishly evil by the end.
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Post by Milo on Apr 23, 2022 9:14:52 GMT -5
I thought Age of Ultron was the worst. Very dour and self-serious, which I don't think fits a Marvel movie.
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