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Post by Doghouse Reilly on May 3, 2024 11:58:08 GMT -5
One of my favorite Superman stories is From Millar's run on the animated-series-based Adventures Of Superman. The first page is basically a kid praying to Superman to return his lost dog. There's no acknowledgment in the story that Supes heard the kid's plea, until the final page, which I'm sure you can guess what happens. The intervening pages are Superman being very busy doing superhero stuff. Shirley, one lost dog didn't register on his radar with all these major crimes going on, did it?
I'm a sucker for dog stories, and this one makes me tear up.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 3, 2024 12:28:25 GMT -5
One of the saddest comic book covers ever... And this is no pleasure to read, either...
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Post by driver1980 on May 3, 2024 12:36:54 GMT -5
You know, as much as I like comics such as Scooby-Doo Team-Up, I do believe Scooby was best represented by the Marvel title, which did some great stories, such as as this one:
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Post by codystarbuck on May 3, 2024 20:53:59 GMT -5
You know, as much as I like comics such as Scooby-Doo Team-Up, I do believe Scooby was best represented by the Marvel title, which did some great stories, such as as this one: Gold Key, Marvel...whoever...they were mostly all done by Dan Spiegle.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 15, 2024 12:17:32 GMT -5
I just noticed - look at what they're all chanting in the first panel - "Big dog! Big dog! Bow wow wow!". That's a slight modification of Cole Porter's Yale University fight song: "Bulldog! Bulldog! Bow wow wow!". The song was featured in the movie "Night and Day" in 1946, so it would have been reasonably well known when this comic was written.
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Post by DubipR on May 15, 2024 15:50:58 GMT -5
Good ol' Lockjaw
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Post by codystarbuck on May 15, 2024 21:26:31 GMT -5
Good ol' Lockjaw Yeah, until that ice cream gets to his stomach and colon.........
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Post by MWGallaher on May 15, 2024 21:49:46 GMT -5
The dog that chased his owner off the cover of his own comic book:
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Post by berkley on May 15, 2024 21:54:37 GMT -5
The dog that chased his owner off the cover of his own comic book: What are you talking about, there's a tall green street lantern right there alongside the car!
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Post by berkley on May 15, 2024 23:30:45 GMT -5
I love dogs, and have always enjoyed the likes of Krypto and Ace. I'm going to throw out a crazy one...if the Hulk had a "gamma hound" as a companion. Ok, it might seem a little silly, this green gamma ray infused Hulk pup. But besides the spectacle of it, Hulk always feels so lonely and outcast, and what better companion than man's best friend but in an incarnation that can hang with him.
Didn't they have "gamma hounds" of a sort in one of the Hulk movies - maybe the Ang Lee one? Or one of the others from around that time,before the whole Marvel Movie franchise really took off. They weren't sidekicks, though, but vicious attack dogs the Hulk had to fight off.
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Post by berkley on May 16, 2024 0:02:41 GMT -5
Lockjaw was my first reaction and for a minute I even thought he might be the only comic book dog character I liked - but then the thread reminded me of others, e.g. Snoopy, Tintin's dog Milou/Snowy. What do they have in common, I wonder - maybe that I don't see any of them as sidekicks, but as effective characters in their own right? Or am I just projecting that preference onto them - I suppose Milou could be considered a sidekick to Tintin - but then he(?) is more of a real dog than the other two.
Where does the term sidekick come from BTW? I can't think of any sidekicks I like - for the simple reason that the term seems to imply the idea of a character that is only there for the sake of another character: IOW, a character that has no raison d'etre of its own, which to me is never a good start.
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Post by Doghouse Reilly on May 16, 2024 16:50:31 GMT -5
I love dogs, and have always enjoyed the likes of Krypto and Ace. I'm going to throw out a crazy one...if the Hulk had a "gamma hound" as a companion. Ok, it might seem a little silly, this green gamma ray infused Hulk pup. But besides the spectacle of it, Hulk always feels so lonely and outcast, and what better companion than man's best friend but in an incarnation that can hang with him. Didn't they have "gamma hounds" of a sort in one of the Hulk movies - maybe the Ang Lee one? Or one of the others from around that time,before the whole Marvel Movie franchise really took off. They weren't sidekicks, though, but vicious attack dogs the Hulk had to fight off.
I think there were some gamma hounds in the comics for an issue or two. Not too long after PAD left the book, during Jenkins' or Jones' run.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 16, 2024 22:33:27 GMT -5
Lockjaw was my first reaction and for a minute I even thought he might be the only comic book dog character I liked - but then the thread reminded me of others, e.g. Snoopy, Tintin's dog Milou/Snowy. What do they have in common, I wonder - maybe that I don't see any of them as sidekicks, but as effective characters in their own right? Or am I just projecting that preference onto them - I suppose Milou could be considered a sidekick to Tintin - but then he(?) is more of a real dog than the other two.
Where does the term sidekick come from BTW? I can't think of any sidekicks I like - for the simple reason that the term seems to imply the idea of a character that is only there for the sake of another character: IOW, a character that has no raison d'etre of its own, which to me is never a good start. Well, if you believe Wikipedia, it is from Victorian pickpocket slang; but, the reference for that consists of a pair of websites and not any scholarly works. A "kick" was supposed to be slang for a front pocket, safest from theft but that doesn't really explain "sidekick." As a literary trope, it goes back to ancient literature, including Enkidu, in Gilgamesh, Patroclus to Achilles, in the Iliad, and characters like Sancho Panza to Don Qixote (or Little John to Robin Hood, or Will Scarlet, in some of the legends). Usually, to be a real sidekick, you have to be the junior partner in the relationship, subordinate to the hero. Where the partnership is more equally, the term sidekick becomes a false notion. You could argue someone like Tonto, based on variations of depiction, as sometimes he follows the Lone Ranger's lead and other times he acts of his own volition. With Tintin, I would say more companion than sidekick. I always liked Porky Pig as a sidekick to Daffy Duck; but, then again, Daffy is the butt of the joke and Porky kind of acts as the observer and enabler of his shenanigans, proving to be the actual hero in their adventures....or mostly amused by them. Tonto to the Lone Ranger is a good sidekick, if you want to label him as such, though I think they work better as equal partners. Watson is a good one to Holmes, in the better interpretations of the material. He exists as an observer for Holmes to explain his methodology, for the reader, which was a common function, in detective stories and similar. Within comics, I think Robin was, at times, a great one and certainly the best of the junior assistants to superheroes. That's why I always enjoyed seeing him come into his own, as a hero. I liked the concept that, as an adult, he is one of the best superheroes out there, as he grew up in the role and has tons of experience, by the time he reaches adulthood, not to mention his previous circus acrobatic training. He worked with and learned from the best, even more than Bruce Wayne did, in his journey.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 16, 2024 22:34:57 GMT -5
ps in terms of dog sidekicks, my favorite would have to be Devil, to the Phantom, though he is a wolf, not a dog.
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Post by mikelmidnight on May 17, 2024 11:01:45 GMT -5
What I find is a great, lost plotline here, is that there are SPACE CANINE PATROL AGENTS REJECTS. In the LSH title, they often become villains. I'd love to see Hex Hound and Catdog heading a team of bad dogs. Regarding Krypto, as much as I love Moore's ability to write a scene that perfectly captures a character in a single line or panel, the ultimate Krypto scene for me is in Morrison's All-Star Superman:[Future Supes Descendent]: "I'm telepathic! You can't resist me! Your solar powers are in their infancy! You're not as strong, as smart, or as fast as you will be ... " [Young Superman]: "Oh yeah?" [Young Superman]: "But I have ... my dog!" [Krypto swoops out of the sky and knocks FSD for a loop]
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