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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 6:55:25 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. I like that. That would have opened up a ton of new storyline possibilities both for contemporary DC and future timelines. |
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Post by supercat on Nov 13, 2024 9:00:57 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. I like that. That would have opened up a ton of new storyline possibilities both for contemporary DC and future timelines. Yeah, I feel like you could substantially keep the general flavor of the classic Silver Age lore intact with some creative reworking in places. Like the classic "Supergirl's Three Super Girl-Friends" becomes "Mary Marvel's Three Super Girl-Friends", and the Red K in the story just becomes "a strange glowing meteor" or something of that nature. Some elements of the Superman mythos would require a little more of a stretch (like the significance of Brainiac 5), but it could be fun. Dr. Sivana could replace the Lex Luthor interactions as an example. And yeah, exactly what you said on opening up new storyline possibilities. Mr. Mind in the future (or is it a descendent?), stuff that could just be a little crazy and cool. I even had a little storyline in my head where Billy feels bad that he can't come along for Legion adventures since as Captain Marvel he's not a teen like Freddy and Mary, but in one story he ends up helping the Legion somehow just as Billy and becomes an honorary Legionnaire since he's still a teen as Billy. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 9:14:36 GMT -5
Really good ideas, and, you know, I think DC should do those ideas as Elseworlds stories (although you’d surely deserve some royalties for the idea!).
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Post by supercat on Nov 13, 2024 9:36:08 GMT -5
Really good ideas, and, you know, I think DC should do those ideas as Elseworlds stories (although you’d surely deserve some royalties for the idea!). Kind words my friend! I'd love more stuff like this as Elseworlds, I miss the more classic Elseworlds material DC used to produce. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 9:52:41 GMT -5
Just my opinion, and this may be more of a Marvel thing, but some of the stories which would have made better Elseworlds/What if? tales are now mainstream, making the concept of Elseworlds a tad redundant.
I mean, decades ago, maybe General Ross as Red Hulk would have been a one-issue What If? tale, but in modern times, well they probably got several years and countless spin-offs and one-shots out of it. With DC, you had something like Gotham by Gaslight, but today they’d probably find a way to make that part of regular continuity.
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 13, 2024 10:01:11 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. That honestly sounds amazing and I'm all for that!~ |
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Post by supercat on Nov 13, 2024 10:07:56 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. That honestly sounds amazing and I'm all for that!~ Thank you sir, I'll start working on the fan fiction haha! |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Nov 13, 2024 12:16:02 GMT -5
What do you think might have been a better path for the Superboy/LSH discrepancy? I agree he took a more convoluted path than he needed to. I didn't think of it at the time, but Morrison's idea was a good one, although they never really ran with it: Clark Kent hangs out in Smallville, secretly doing good deeds (a la the tv show) In his mid teens, he is contacted by three members of the Legion, who bring him to the future and gift him with a Superboy costume. He learns to fly with the aid of a flight belt/ring, and his adventures with the Legion are more or less intact. When he is in his early 20s he moves to Metropolis. He establishes himself as a brand-new hero and makes a name for himself ... but at the same time he secretly has years of experience fighting superpowered aliens. So even though he's an unknown quantity, when he encounters a mad scientist robbing a bank with a giant robot, or whatever ... it's small fry to him. So from the beginning he will have the demeanor of an experienced, established superhero. |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Nov 13, 2024 12:21:37 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. On the condition that if you do that, you have to establish CapMarv as a member! |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2024 16:46:32 GMT -5
The post Crisis Legion was a mess, but I did have this idea long ago that if they insisted on destroying the Superboy lore, but still had freedom with the Shazam family, switch it to Freddy and Mary as the inspirations. On the condition that if you do that, you have to establish CapMarv as a member! Just retcon Mon-El into Marv-El..then make the magic word "S'ha'zam!" |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Nov 14, 2024 10:27:38 GMT -5
On the condition that if you do that, you have to establish CapMarv as a member! Just retcon Mon-El into Marv-El..then make the magic word "S'ha'zam!" If we're going to retcon Mon-El substantially anyway, may as well stick with this guy. No direct 20th century ties, but he could play the same role in the Legion as being the local Cap equivalent. CapMarv |
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