shaxper
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Post by shaxper on Nov 30, 2014 12:14:42 GMT -5
A sister discussion to the They did WHAT with my character/property??!! thread, what are some examples of characters or franchises that a later writer changed for the better? And, when the X-Men inevitably come up, who will you credit? Len Wein, Chris Claremont, John Byrne, etc? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 12:28:35 GMT -5
Frank Miller's Daredevil from #158 up...awesome...saved it from cancellation when he took over as writer as well, if those rumours were true.
And, imho, Garth Ennis's Punisher inclusive of 2000's Welcome Back Frank, followed by a 37 issue series, followed by the awesome Punisher Max.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 30, 2014 12:48:55 GMT -5
I thought Marc DeMatteis and Mark Badger did a helluva job of updating Martian Manhunter for a modern audience.
Cei-U!
I summon the red planet!
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 30, 2014 14:00:48 GMT -5
Adam Warlock becomes a major player when Jim Starlin redefines him in Strange Tales # 178.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Nov 30, 2014 14:36:27 GMT -5
Jim Starlin on Captain Marvel. His best IMO. I loved old green suit Mar-Vel but when Starlin stepped in, that whole storyline and then his eventual death were done so well. Makes Mar-Vel my favourite character, behind only Spidey and Batman
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Post by coke & comics on Nov 30, 2014 14:45:47 GMT -5
For a more modern example, I love Peter David making Multiple Man a private eye.
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Post by Pharozonk on Nov 30, 2014 15:24:14 GMT -5
Does Peter David's Incredible Hulk run count?
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 30, 2014 17:17:19 GMT -5
Jim Starlin on Captain Marvel. His best IMO. I loved old green suit Mar-Vel but when Starlin stepped in, that whole storyline and then his eventual death were done so well. Makes Mar-Vel my favourite character, behind only Spidey and Batman And Yet, Marvel claimed they didn't know what to do with the character so they asked Starlin to kill him off in that GN in 82. |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 30, 2014 18:10:32 GMT -5
Does Peter David's Incredible Hulk run count? It was a (mostly) great run, but what was so groundbreaking and new about it? Just in the first handful of Hulk stories by Stan Lee, we had the angry gray hulk, we had Banner's mind in Hulk's body and the more child-like Hulk. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 30, 2014 19:07:25 GMT -5
I've always liked the Danny Ketch Ghost Rider over Johnny Blaze.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 19:09:27 GMT -5
The recasting of the grim gritty parody (of Frank Miller) kung fu comic called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles into a kid-friendly cartoon and Archie comic that became a pop culture juggernaut that is still going...
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Post by Jesse on Nov 30, 2014 20:39:39 GMT -5
Grant Morrison's Animal Man and Chuck Dixon's Airboy.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 30, 2014 20:45:21 GMT -5
Does Peter David's Incredible Hulk run count? It was a (mostly) great run, but what was so groundbreaking and new about it? Just in the first handful of Hulk stories by Stan Lee, we had the angry gray hulk, we had Banner's mind in Hulk's body and the more child-like Hulk. I'd say intelligent Green Hulk, leading his own think tank/crisis action agency (The Pantheon) was pretty different. |
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 30, 2014 21:02:45 GMT -5
Casting Robert Downey as Tony Stark and adapting Tales of Suspense #39 in the first Iron Man film was a masterstroke IMO.
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Post by DubipR on Nov 30, 2014 21:11:46 GMT -5
John Ostrander using his theology background to give Spectre a true purpose and redefining the character ever since...
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