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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 4:16:02 GMT -5
Honestly, it wasn't all that awful. Maybe they can use that as a tag-line to advertise the film  |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 8, 2015 5:59:39 GMT -5
The saddest part for me was that I actually liked the previous film incarnation. The plot lines were terrible, and their treatment of Galactus and Silver Surfer was unforgivable, but the casting and characterizations were really good. I could have gotten behind that franchise if a third movie came out and had a better plot/antagonist.
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Post by batlaw on Aug 8, 2015 7:09:03 GMT -5
The saddest part for me was that I actually liked the previous film incarnation. The plot lines were terrible, and their treatment of Galactus and Silver Surfer was unforgivable, but the casting and characterizations were really good. I could have gotten behind that franchise if a third movie came out and had a better plot/antagonist. Same here. I thought the first FF was fine (especially for its time). Even the second one, flawed as it was, wasn't unwatchable or without it's moments imo. Dr.doom was the weakest issue in those movies for me. Alba wasn't right for sue, Ben could've/should've been bigger, galactus was lame and the humor (especially in the 2nd) was a little cheesy at times, but I really didn't hate either of them. I actually thought the surfer came off cool. But I'm not much of an FF fan or all that knowledgable of them. Still, disappointed to hear this one is failing so hard. Although my initial thoughts on it weren't positive and there's things about it I didn't care for, I was becoming intrigued and optimistic off what I was seeing up to its release. Oh well. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 7:16:24 GMT -5
The sequel was more disappointing than the first one and that's why I've not seen (the second one) it on TV yet. The Fantastic Four movie franchise is the most disappointing Marvel Movies ever. I'm not going to see the latest one because I just don't care the trailers that they put out on theatres and/on You Tube at all.
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Post by coke & comics on Aug 8, 2015 16:04:57 GMT -5
I'll catch the film one day on Netflix or something out of morbid curiosity.
Interesting fact, to my mind the three worst Marvel films of all time are all FF movies, without seeing this one. I now suspect I will find the four worst Marvel films of all time to be FF films.
The worst Marvel movie and worst superhero movie and just one of the worst movies ever made is the 2005 Fantastic Four film. I don't expect this movie to be worse than that. But it's possible.
For the curious, the worst Marvel superhero films prior to the release of this latest one:
1. Fantastic Four (2005)
2. Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007)
3. The Fantastic Four (1994)
4. Man-Thing (2005)
5. Generation X (1996)
6. Blade: Trinity (2004)
7. Captain America (1990)
8. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
9. Elektra (2005)
I assume this new FF film will finish out that top 10.
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Post by coke & comics on Aug 8, 2015 16:09:32 GMT -5
Looking through this thread, I am reminded there is disagreement about the 2005 film.
Problems:
1. Dr. Doom. I mean what the hell.
2. Jessica Alba
3. Terrible origin
4. Character arcs that go literally nowhere. They set up 5 of them and then forget about 4 of them and have a battle
5. Dr. Doom
6. Why are the FF thrown a parade at the end? They helped avert a disaster they caused and beat up their 5th super-power gaining companion. And the city cheers?
7. They just didn't capture anything that made the FF great.
8. Dr. Doom
Strengths:
Michael Chiklis gave a solid performance as Thing and his characterization and character arc were solid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 16:28:02 GMT -5
Movie has failed and deservingly so. Only liked Kate Mara's casting...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 4:10:40 GMT -5
Looking through this thread, I am reminded there is disagreement about the 2005 film. Problems: 1. Dr. Doom. I mean what the hell. 2. Jessica Alba 3. Terrible origin 4. Character arcs that go literally nowhere. They set up 5 of them and then forget about 4 of them and have a battle 5. Dr. Doom 6. Why are the FF thrown a parade at the end? They helped avert a disaster they caused and beat up their 5th super-power gaining companion. And the city cheers? 7. They just didn't capture anything that made the FF great. 8. Dr. Doom Strengths: Michael Chiklis gave a solid performance as Thing and his characterization and character arc were solid. Agree with most of that, except the origin - I think the origin works, and even explains why the Thing can't return to normal appearance (he gits hit by two waves of the storm, where the others only get one). |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 9, 2015 6:46:44 GMT -5
The saddest part for me was that I actually liked the previous film incarnation. The plot lines were terrible, and their treatment of Galactus and Silver Surfer was unforgivable, but the casting and characterizations were really good. I could have gotten behind that franchise if a third movie came out and had a better plot/antagonist. I don't call it sad, I really enjoyed the previous 2 movies. The only negative was that Doom looked so hokey. Maybe Dr. Doom is someone that can't be translated well to the Big screen. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 9, 2015 6:50:17 GMT -5
Looking through this thread, I am reminded there is disagreement about the 2005 film. Problems: 2. Jessica Alba Cmon, I loved her in that movie. There aren't enough Alba movies made these days. |
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Post by Gene on Aug 9, 2015 21:27:16 GMT -5
I can't say that I dislike the '05 and '07 movies. I mean they're not good, but at least they're recognizable as the FF. I'd rather see a movie that tries and fails than one that looks like it's embarrassed by the stories and characters that it's adapting.
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Post by Pharozonk on Aug 10, 2015 10:57:26 GMT -5
I've been thinking that the Fantastic Four would have worked better as a period piece in the same vein as the underrated X-Men: First Class.
With NASA pretty much dead right now, space exploration just isn't the cultural zeitgeist it used to be during the 1960's, which is pretty depressing frankly. Entrepreneurship and cultural introspection are the forefront of modern society's interests, which is why Iron Man better fits our modern world. That's why superheroes like the Fantastic Four and X-Men work best as period pieces where they can play off the unique cultural context that birthed them. It's not a surprise that the best X-Men movie was set in the 1960's, where the filmmakers understood how to make Cold War themes of prejudice and scientific paranoia resonate with a modern audience. Though those ideas are centered around those time periods, they are universal concepts that anyone can understand and relate to in any era. You just need the right context to make it work.
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Post by Gene on Aug 10, 2015 11:13:08 GMT -5
I think a FF movie set in the present day makes perfect sense. NASA might not be what it once was, but look at everything that's happening with private space flight. We have guys like Elon Musk and Richard Branson sending up their own shuttles right now, and Hollywood acts like Reed Richards building his own rocket is some absurd idea. The real world is finally catching up to the Fantastic Four and nobody is capitalizing on it.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 11, 2015 22:20:17 GMT -5
Tomorrow's my day off and I'm going to see it.
Seriously, it can't be as bad as the reviews are making it out to be.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Aug 12, 2015 13:00:39 GMT -5
Tomorrow's my day off and I'm going to see it. Seriously, it can't be as bad as the reviews are making it out to be. Never say never. |
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