Crimebuster
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Post by Crimebuster on Mar 30, 2015 14:09:46 GMT -5
Squirrel Girl continues to be great fun. Quickly becoming one of my favorite titles. Which I guess isn't saying much since I only buy a handful of books, but still.
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Post by the4thpip on Mar 30, 2015 14:18:22 GMT -5
Batman '66- 1st tradebook collecting issues #1-5 Now I recall how excited I was when the TV show debuted and after a year how bored I was with the show and how the comicbook now sucked because it replicated what the show was doing. Nice enough for the little kiddies but not for me. Ty Templeton's art was very good for the one issue he contributed My impression was always that the comics were sillier in the years before the TV series was on, and got a lot more serious around the same time that the "camp" TV show was a hit, but I might be remembering wrongly. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 30, 2015 16:38:47 GMT -5
Batman '66- 1st tradebook collecting issues #1-5 Now I recall how excited I was when the TV show debuted and after a year how bored I was with the show and how the comicbook now sucked because it replicated what the show was doing. Nice enough for the little kiddies but not for me. Ty Templeton's art was very good for the one issue he contributed My impression was always that the comics were sillier in the years before the TV series was on, and got a lot more serious around the same time that the "camp" TV show was a hit, but I might be remembering wrongly. Nah, you have it right; there were perhaps a few issues that attempted to cash in on the show's success but by and large the New Look Era was an attempt to make Batman more contemporary. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Mar 30, 2015 17:09:30 GMT -5
Re: 1960s Batman
Jack Schiff was the Batman editor from the late 50s till 1964. This was the silly and extremely juvenile era for Bats featuring Batmite,Batwoman,Batgirl,Ace the Bat Hound, Vicki Vale and SF menaces from outer space. A few nice things came out of it like Clayface, Robin Dies At Dawn but generally it was being written for 8 year olds. Falling sales finally forced Schiff out and Julie Schwarz taking over in 1964. Bats now had the yellow oval on his chest, monsters were gone and detective oriented tales were in. The age level of the writing seemed to have doubled to mid-teens.
The TV show came in the fall of 1965 I believe, a year and a half after the New Look change. With the show proving to be highly successful, the comic changed to mirror the TV program. Robin is now sprouting Holy This Or That constantly, the detective angle goes on the backburner and costumed villians are now the focal point. Lots and lots of silly humour is injected as well
When the show was cancelled in Jan of 1968, Batman's comic slowly began to mature again for that coming year. Horror elements began to creep in, Robin played a smaller role and ultimately moved to college and the capper was Neal Adams involvement
Batman was probably the #1 selling comic during the Batmania phase but for an adult reader, the pre and post TV show issues under Julie Schwarz remain readable. I recall Hoosier X singing the praises of the Jack Sciff issues but I just don't think that would be the case if you were buying them off the newstands back then and it was the only version of Batman available
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 30, 2015 18:19:01 GMT -5
Re: 1960s Batman Jack Schiff was the Batman editor from the late 50s till 1964. This was the silly and extremely juvenile era for Bats featuring Batmite,Batwoman,Batgirl,Ace the Bat Hound, Vicki Vale and SF menaces from outer space. A few nice things came out of it like Clayface, Robin Dies At Dawn but generally it was being written for 8 year olds. Falling sales finally forced Schiff out and Julie Schwarz taking over in 1964. Bats now had the yellow oval on his chest, monsters were gone and detective oriented tales were in. The age level of the writing seemed to have doubled to mid-teens. The TV show came in the fall of 1965 I believe, a year and a half after the New Look change. With the show proving to be highly successful, the comic changed to mirror the TV program. Robin is now sprouting Holy This Or That constantly, the detective angle goes on the backburner and costumed villians are now the focal point. Lots and lots of silly humour is injected as well When the show was cancelled in Jan of 1968, Batman's comic slowly began to mature again for that coming year. Horror elements began to creep in, Robin played a smaller role and ultimately moved to college and the capper was Neal Adams involvement Batman was probably the #1 selling comic during the Batmania phase but for an adult reader, the pre and post TV show issues under Julie Schwarz remain readable. I recall Hoosier X singing the praises of the Jack Sciff issues but I just don't think that would be the case if you were buying them off the newstands back then and it was the only version of Batman available I see this a lot but that's not what I read at all, Robin may have used, "Holy---" more often after the show debuted, and costumed villains were used but other than a few issues like Batman #191  The tone stayed mostly the same as it did before the show, giving us great stories like Death Knocks Three Times(Batman #180) Fright of the Scare Crow (Batman #189) and The See Through Man (Batman #195). Detective comics was a little sillier during the show's tenure, often featuring quirky romance plots with Batgirl and a bunch of D-list enemies but by the same token it was like that before the show too(minus the new Batgirl). For what ever reason, although Swartz pushed for a more mature feel in Batman, Detective still featured weird plots like Hunters of the Elaphant Graveyard (Detective #333) and Batman's Bewitched Nightmare (Detective #336). I don't know if this was an intentional choice to appease any readers who liked what came before or just what the writers wanted to do but Tec was always lighter than Batman in this era.
The villains used in the show taking a larger prominence in the books is the only real influence I see, but that was always going to happen sooner or later so although the show might have sped up their return it was an inevitability and in fact was slowly happening on its own even before the show started. Even then, other than on the covers the villains hardly ever acted like they did on the show in the stories. |
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 30, 2015 20:00:14 GMT -5
for Wednesday, April 1 DC COMICS Batman and Robin Annual #3 Batman/ Superman Annual #2 Convergence #0 Earth 2: World's End #26 Flash: Season Zero #7 Sinestro Annual #1 Superman/ Wonder Woman #17 Teen Titans Annual #1 Wonder Woman #40 MARVEL COMICS: Kanan: The Last Padawan #1 Nice ones man:) are you getting any of the convergence minis ? A slight majority, mostly from the Pre-Crisis half. |
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 30, 2015 20:10:10 GMT -5
Batman '66- 1st tradebook collecting issues #1-5 Now I recall how excited I was when the TV show debuted and after a year how bored I was with the show and how the comicbook now sucked because it replicated what the show was doing. Nice enough for the little kiddies but not for me. Ty Templeton's art was very good for the one issue he contributed Templeton's art is stellar in every issue he does. Templeton does all the art in the Batman '66 Meets the Green Hornet mini series. I've greatly enjoyed the Batman '66 series. |
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 30, 2015 20:13:09 GMT -5
I usually bail whenever a series franchises out to multiple titles as a money grab. I pretty much stopped buying Avengers books this year. I admit it. I clamor for more (insert favorite franchises here) every chance I get and put my money behind it. My bad.  |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 30, 2015 20:18:22 GMT -5
So, just to throw a little teaser out there, if you enjoy discussing new comics, we have a big announcement coming soon...  |
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Post by Action Ace on Mar 30, 2015 20:43:07 GMT -5
So, just to throw a little teaser out there, if you enjoy discussing new comics, we have a big announcement coming soon... Is this the announcement where I get to shill for DC Comics and toss softball questions at Dan Didio or is it a different announcement. |
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 31, 2015 3:03:54 GMT -5
Daredevil (Mark Waid/Chris Samnee) Hawkeye (the Fraction/Aja et al series that's just about to finish up any minute now) She -Hulk (current volume just finished, available in two tpbs) Moon Knight (the Warren Ellis tpb) Silver Surfer (Dan Slott/Mike Allred having FUN with the Marvel Universe's mopiest character!) Miles Morales Ultimate Spider-Man whatever the freakin' book's called this year If you're into huge epic plotlines, Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers is about to wrap up leading into Secret Wars I'd add the Ms. Marvel series by G. Willow Wilson to that list. -M I really must have a look at that. |
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Post by Spike-X on Mar 31, 2015 3:06:40 GMT -5
I'd add the Ms. Marvel series by G. Willow Wilson to that list. -M And I'd add Skottie Young's Rocket Raccoon and Spencer's Superior Foes of Spider-Man (just finished). Yes yes yes! Izzat so? I'll have to check 'em out. I read a couple of the Brian Wood issues, and wasn't impressed. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Mar 31, 2015 4:34:24 GMT -5
And I'd add Skottie Young's Rocket Raccoon and Spencer's Superior Foes of Spider-Man (just finished). Yes yes yes! Izzat so? I'll have to check 'em out. I read a couple of the Brian Wood issues, and wasn't impressed. It wasn't close to Warren Ellis' quality and I didn't dislike Wood's issues, but it was a decent beginning. Never read much of Bunn's work (not enough at least to spell his name correctly) apart from one issue of Immortal Weapons (which only was noticeable for Dan Brereton's art) and Fearless Defenders (which was rather mediocre), but I'm giving him a shot on this. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 7:34:33 GMT -5
Yes yes yes! Izzat so? I'll have to check 'em out. I read a couple of the Brian Wood issues, and wasn't impressed. It wasn't close to Warren Ellis' quality and I didn't dislike Wood's issues, but it was a decent beginning. Never read much of Bunn's work (not enough at least to spell his name correctly) apart from one issue of Immortal Weapons (which only was noticeable for Dan Brereton's art) and Fearless Defenders (which was rather mediocre), but I'm giving him a shot on this. Sixth Gun and Helheim from Oni by Bunn are very very good. His mainstream superhero stuff has paled in comparison to me. Solid and serviceable sure, but not spectacular. For me, Fearless Defenders was his best hero stuff but still paled to his indy stuff. -M |
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Post by Dizzy D on Mar 31, 2015 7:43:42 GMT -5
Anybody read Infantry by Joe Casey BTW? They are having a sale at my comicshop and I saw those lying around. Usually I love all things Casey, but I never heard of this series (probably because it's Devil's Due, a publisher where I never saw much publicity from).
I really should just pick it up, because it's hardly costing anything.
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