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Post by Dizzy D on Nov 30, 2015 4:51:15 GMT -5
Okay, so my question is: These characters that Marvel is "replacing" with new versions of the originals, are the originals disappearing? Or are they still being actively used in other books? And I mean, Thor, Captain America (Steve Rogers), The Hulk, etc. Or did they just fall off into Never-To-See-From-Again Land? Most of them are still around, Steve Rogers is in Uncanny Avengers for instance. Bruce Banner will have a major role in Pak/Cho's current Hulk series. I think the only one currently dead and replaced is Wolverine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 7:49:57 GMT -5
Okay, so my question is: These characters that Marvel is "replacing" with new versions of the originals, are the originals disappearing? Or are they still being actively used in other books? And I mean, Thor, Captain America (Steve Rogers), The Hulk, etc. Or did they just fall off into Never-To-See-From-Again Land? Most of them are still around, Steve Rogers is in Uncanny Avengers for instance. Bruce Banner will have a major role in Pak/Cho's current Hulk series. I think the only one currently dead and replaced is Wolverine. Do you think they'll age Steve Rogers until he finally dies? Or do you think he'll come back as Captain America before then? Is Remender still on UA? Is Quicksilver still in that mess of a book? Marvel is at least kind of easing us into a character switch (if that is indeed what they are doing). Which I think New52 would have been received better by older fans had DC eased folks into it as well.
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Post by Dizzy D on Dec 1, 2015 10:09:27 GMT -5
Most of them are still around, Steve Rogers is in Uncanny Avengers for instance. Bruce Banner will have a major role in Pak/Cho's current Hulk series. I think the only one currently dead and replaced is Wolverine. Do you think they'll age Steve Rogers until he finally dies? Or do you think he'll come back as Captain America before then? Is Remender still on UA? Is Quicksilver still in that mess of a book? Marvel is at least kind of easing us into a character switch (if that is indeed what they are doing). Which I think New52 would have been received better by older fans had DC eased folks into it as well. To answer your questions: 1. Nope, I think this will be another Street of Poison/Spider-Man No More/whatever else. A story with a beginning, middle and end. I think Steve will become Captain America again at one point or another (I'm trying really hard to think of a character which has been permanently replaced by another and can only come up with very obscure ones. Even GL and Flash were the most popular ones are not the originals, have the originals still running around). 2. Duggan is writing UA, I think Quicksilver is in it, but not sure. (Quick google: cover says "Yes")
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 10:22:16 GMT -5
Do you think they'll age Steve Rogers until he finally dies? Or do you think he'll come back as Captain America before then? Is Remender still on UA? Is Quicksilver still in that mess of a book? Marvel is at least kind of easing us into a character switch (if that is indeed what they are doing). Which I think New52 would have been received better by older fans had DC eased folks into it as well. To answer your questions: 1. Nope, I think this will be another Street of Poison/Spider-Man No More/whatever else. A story with a beginning, middle and end. I think Steve will become Captain America again at one point or another (I'm trying really hard to think of a character which has been permanently replaced by another and can only come up with very obscure ones. Even GL and Flash were the most popular ones are not the originals, have the originals still running around). 2. Duggan is writing UA, I think Quicksilver is in it, but not sure. (Quick google: cover says "Yes") Ohmygod, Dizzy, thank you so much. You give me hope (more for Quicksilver in UA).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 8:42:28 GMT -5
Well, in the current Marvel U, there are multiple variants of the same character running around (5 or 6 Spider-Man variants of Peter Parker, for example), so I don't necessarily see a problem with having 2 variants of the same identity who are different people (there's about 12 Spider-Women, all different people, plus another 2 or 3 Spider-Men who are not Peter Parker), though Captain America is such an icon that I don't know that it makes sense in-Universe for there to be two of them.
Whether all the multiple simultaneous different instances of characters is a good idea, well that's a whole different question.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 9:38:18 GMT -5
Well, in the current Marvel U, there are multiple variants of the same character running around (5 or 6 Spider-Man variants of Peter Parker, for example), so I don't necessarily see a problem with having 2 variants of the same identity who are different people (there's about 12 Spider-Women, all different people, plus another 2 or 3 Spider-Men who are not Peter Parker), though Captain America is such an icon that I don't know that it makes sense in-Universe for there to be two of them. Whether all the multiple simultaneous different instances of characters is a good idea, well that's a whole different question. I don't mind multiples of characters. I don't even mind temporary replacements. As long as it's just temporary (if it's a complete replacement). I don't mind change that much. As long as I can count on stories with the originals in the future, I do not have any problem with it. But ask me if I still feel the same when we get 93847 Namors running around.
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Post by Dizzy D on Dec 2, 2015 10:06:12 GMT -5
At least it's not as bad as the 90s where you couldn't have multiple characters with the same name running around, leading to things like "Kid Nova" (until they could kill off Galactus' herald) and the tag team that Adam Warlock/The Magus did with the New Mutants Warlock/Magus.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 10:10:55 GMT -5
Well, in the current Marvel U, there are multiple variants of the same character running around (5 or 6 Spider-Man variants of Peter Parker, for example), so I don't necessarily see a problem with having 2 variants of the same identity who are different people (there's about 12 Spider-Women, all different people, plus another 2 or 3 Spider-Men who are not Peter Parker), though Captain America is such an icon that I don't know that it makes sense in-Universe for there to be two of them. Whether all the multiple simultaneous different instances of characters is a good idea, well that's a whole different question. I don't mind multiples of characters. I don't even mind temporary replacements. As long as it's just temporary (if it's a complete replacement). I don't mind change that much. As long as I can count on stories with the originals in the future, I do not have any problem with it. But ask me if I still feel the same when we get 93847 Namors running around. You mean you don't want a pageant parade of Namors to match the multiple Captain Britains floating around the MU...? -M
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 10:40:31 GMT -5
Humoursly, I do not mind. But a permanent replacement? No. I have some scans I will post later.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 12:24:33 GMT -5
But ask me if I still feel the same when we get 93847 Namors running around. Perish the thought - 1 is more than enough
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Post by wickedmountain on Apr 27, 2016 22:34:19 GMT -5
What book is quicksilver in now if at all??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 7:21:38 GMT -5
Still in Uncanny Avengers
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Apr 28, 2016 19:52:04 GMT -5
Oh. Seeeing this thread made me think that Marvel was completely rebooting all their titles again.
Sadly, I was not surprised.
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Post by wickedmountain on Apr 28, 2016 22:38:52 GMT -5
Oh. Seeeing this thread made me think that Marvel was completely rebooting all their titles again.Sadly, I was not surprised. They could again I wouldn't be surprised at that :/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 3:54:15 GMT -5
They will again. And again and again. They restart to #1 almost as regularly as DC reboot their universe
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