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Post by dupersuper on Jul 1, 2014 22:02:52 GMT -5
D'oh! I thought this thread was about Simpsons expressions...
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Post by gothos on Jul 2, 2014 15:42:09 GMT -5
Dave Sim doesn't have an email account and still communicates via fax? That's ridiculous. But it was super cool that he sold sketch commissions on eBay. I wish more creators were willing to do that. We don't all go to cons, and the cost of attending SDCC could pay for four nice commissions anyway. And that's the local cost for someone who could drive home every night if he had to. For you out of towers that have to book flights and a room and take a taxi everywhere, make that eight to ten commissions. If Sim ever explained his aversion to fax/e-mail, I never saw it. I'd hazard that it could just be "get-off-my-lawn"-itis, where anything new is perceived as a threat. OTOH, I have to admit that the Internet does suck up a huge amount of time. OTOH again, since he's not producing a regular series-- maybe only doing commissions for all I know-- one would think he has more time than he used to. He did condescend to do a publicity tour of several net forums in 2008, to promote GLAMOURPUSS. Some of it was pretty entertaining, as when he debated Gail Simone on a forum whose name escapes me.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 2, 2014 17:28:01 GMT -5
He's been working with IDW. Mostly on variant covers. I think IDW is subsidizing future Cerebus reprints, but I can't remember the specifics on that.
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 2, 2014 17:59:54 GMT -5
i *think" IDW are planning on publishing the 1st trade - but entirely redrawn - and not by Sim. could be entirely wrong though.
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 3, 2014 2:14:43 GMT -5
What? That sounds crazy!
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Post by berkley on Jul 3, 2014 2:43:40 GMT -5
did anyone read through glamourpuss? - i read a couple of issues and quite enjoyed it - i wasn't entirely sure what the point of it was but there was lots of very interesting stuff about classic inking techniques amidst beautifully drawn but kind of pointless reworkings of glamour ads where the women were crossed eyed bimbos. the material on illustration though was really first class. a strange unusual comic which is no bad thing in itself it was just difficult to see where it was going to go after a few issues. I read an issue here and there, and hoped to pick up the whole thing when it was collected. The whole thing, I believe, was a love letter to artists he loves like Alex Raymond and Al Williamson, and an attempt to experiment in artistic styles that Sim was not known for.
The one post-Cerebus book that eveyone should read is Judenhass. It's a powerful work that's been all but ignored.
I had the same reaction to the first two issues of Glamourpuss - great artwork, some of the best I've seen in a comic book, but the whole idea of the fashion ad stuff left me cold and the heavyhanded attempts at humour in those sections were an embarrassment. The history of comics artists bits were very interesting, though, and again, beautifully drawn. If they collected it, I'd buy it, and even if they don't, I might look for the back issues, just because the artwork is so very good.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 3, 2014 2:45:25 GMT -5
i *think" IDW are planning on publishing the 1st trade - but entirely redrawn - and not by Sim. could be entirely wrong though. That would be an unfortunate choice. Cerebus evolves organically over time, both visually and thematically, and that's part of the adventure. To have Sim pull a George Lucas Special Edition on it would be both jarring and incredibly disappointing.
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 3, 2014 5:31:57 GMT -5
I read an issue here and there, and hoped to pick up the whole thing when it was collected. The whole thing, I believe, was a love letter to artists he loves like Alex Raymond and Al Williamson, and an attempt to experiment in artistic styles that Sim was not known for.
The one post-Cerebus book that eveyone should read is Judenhass. It's a powerful work that's been all but ignored.
I had the same reaction to the first two issues of Glamourpuss - great artwork, some of the best I've seen in a comic book, but the whole idea of the fashion ad stuff left me cold and the heavyhanded attempts at humour in those sections were an embarrassment. The history of comics artists bits were very interesting, though, and again, beautifully drawn. If they collected it, I'd buy it, and even if they don't, I might look for the back issues, just because the artwork is so very good. i cant remember the strip, but he shows you the inky blotchy mess of the printed panels in the newspaper and then the incredibly fine delicate ink work of his re-creation of the original panels before printing. that was really interesting - showing how printing techniques (or over inking the originals to make them print) could real kill an artist's work.
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Post by ironchimp on Jul 3, 2014 5:36:37 GMT -5
i *think" IDW are planning on publishing the 1st trade - but entirely redrawn - and not by Sim. could be entirely wrong though. That would be an unfortunate choice. Cerebus evolves organically over time, both visually and thematically, and that's part of the adventure. To have Sim pull a George Lucas Special Edition on it would be both jarring and incredibly disappointing. yeah half the journey was watching him lock into the groove but i could see why he might look back on that first phonebook and think - hmmm... not happy. here's the link www.momentofcerebus.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/weekly-update-24-ultimate-cerebus.htmlhow true it is i don't know - my job is simply to repost hearsay and rumour and pass it off as fact.
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Post by Spike-X on Jul 3, 2014 5:57:33 GMT -5
Ah, here's what you're talking about:
That sounds like it could be very interesting, actually.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 3, 2014 6:46:21 GMT -5
Ah, here's what you're talking about: That sounds like it could be very interesting, actually. Depending on who the writers and artists are, yeah. I'd imagine this would pull in some serious talent.
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Post by shaxper on Jul 3, 2014 9:14:14 GMT -5
Ah, here's what you're talking about: That sounds like it could be very interesting, actually. I would find that interesting, too, so long as it wasn't supposed to take the place of the original issues. I'd be particularly interested to see someone who followed the series to the end attempt to create more symmetry in the early issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 16:48:44 GMT -5
I'd check it out online and see if it's worth buying, but I'm pretty skeptical. I can't think of a situation where one of my favorite long running creator owned series was actually improved by shopping out the art and/or writing to studio talent, or worse, popular talent. Cerebus by Jim Lee here we come.
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Post by fanboystranger on Jul 3, 2014 19:42:35 GMT -5
I'd check it out online and see if it's worth buying, but I'm pretty skeptical. I can't think of a situation where one of my favorite long running creator owned series was actually improved by shopping out the art and/or writing to studio talent, or worse, popular talent. Cerebus by Jim Lee here we come. I don't think that's what we'd get. I'd imagine it would be people who have expressed admiration for Sim's work in the past, and haven't dropped that admiration even as they have criticized his views. That's a list that includes people like Eddie Campbell, Steve Bissette, Gary Spencer Milledge, Neil Gaiman, Rick Veitch, etc. Plus, when you consider that what IDW has been doing with Artist Editions and some of the artists they're currently publishing books for, you get people like Walt Simonson, Darwyn Cooke (a fellow Canadian), John Byrne, Mike Grell, Tim Truman, etc. I don't think we'll end up with Geoff Johns and Jim Lee's Cerebus.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2014 19:46:40 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Todd McFarlane wasn't included.
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