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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 5, 2021 19:22:11 GMT -5
I agree... LOVED the Scarlet Witch costume. After all the speculation, I'm pretty happy with the ending... I didn't want an unresolved hit of another bad guy... so nothing was ok. The end with her Astral projection studying while she relaxes was very interesting... I'm thinking perhaps Wanda may be the big bad guy of the Doctor Strange movie herself.
I think it was really interesting that, as the action happened, Wanda has no idea White Vision is out there, and may, perhaps, have the mind of the man she loves. That definitely should come into play at some point in the future, I'm thinking.
I definitely think Billy and Tommy will be in the Doctor Strange movie as well.
Also, I can't wait for Monica Rambeau to get her superhero movie!
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 5, 2021 23:27:51 GMT -5
I'm a tiny bit disappointed that {Spoiler: Click to show}Pietro/Ralph's appearance ended up being a glorified cameo/red herring/fan service. I mean, it was funny and clever, but I wish there had been more to his appearance than simply making him the doppleganger of the Fox Studios Quicksilver. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Mar 7, 2021 11:37:35 GMT -5
I'm a tiny bit disappointed that {Spoiler: Click to show}Pietro/Ralph's appearance ended up being a glorified cameo/red herring/fan service. I mean, it was funny and clever, but I wish there had been more to his appearance than simply making him the doppleganger of the Fox Studios Quicksilver. Yeah, I was hoping he had been pulled from somewhere else. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 7, 2021 12:25:26 GMT -5
{Spoiler: Click to show}
I just assumed that everyone that was dead or never existed would vanish at the end. Pietro dies as did the vision. They were obviously not going to stay around. Her kids were created by a grief stricken mind, they were not real. |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 7, 2021 17:42:32 GMT -5
I really liked the series, especially as it was the first true MCU outing for Disney. The story was good, the acting was very good, and it gave me and my girls something to look forward to every Friday night. However: {Spoiler: Click to show}No Mephisto.
No Nightmare.
No Mordo.
No Dr. Strange.
No multiverse.
One would think that a big old witch battle would have drawn the attention of the Sorceror Supreme or the guy who is out hunting magic users.
They set up something for the next Captain Marvel movie with Monica and the Skrull, and they let White Vision loose on the world to who-knows-what end, but while the post-credits scene with Wanda immersing herself in the Darkhold was interesting, it offered ZERO hints at what is coming.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 0:06:36 GMT -5
I really liked the series, especially as it was the first true MCU outing for Disney. The story was good, the acting was very good, and it gave me and my girls something to look forward to every Friday night. However: {Spoiler: Click to show}No Mephisto.
No Nightmare.
No Mordo.
No Dr. Strange.
No multiverse.
One would think that a big old witch battle would have drawn the attention of the Sorceror Supreme or the guy who is out hunting magic users.
They set up something for the next Captain Marvel movie with Monica and the Skrull, and they let White Vision loose on the world to who-knows-what end, but while the post-credits scene with Wanda immersing herself in the Darkhold was interesting, it offered ZERO hints at what is coming.
Minor quibbles, but quibbles nonetheless. -M |
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Post by The Captain on Mar 8, 2021 7:10:12 GMT -5
I really liked the series, especially as it was the first true MCU outing for Disney. The story was good, the acting was very good, and it gave me and my girls something to look forward to every Friday night. However: {Spoiler: Click to show}No Mephisto.
No Nightmare.
No Mordo.
No Dr. Strange.
No multiverse.
One would think that a big old witch battle would have drawn the attention of the Sorceror Supreme or the guy who is out hunting magic users.
They set up something for the next Captain Marvel movie with Monica and the Skrull, and they let White Vision loose on the world to who-knows-what end, but while the post-credits scene with Wanda immersing herself in the Darkhold was interesting, it offered ZERO hints at what is coming.
Minor quibbles, but quibbles nonetheless. -M For me, it's more surprise than disappointment. They still did their usual world-building, just in a different direction. Again, it didn't ruin my enjoyment of the show, more left me wondering what The Plan is, which I suppose was their intent. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 8, 2021 7:20:33 GMT -5
The Marvel cinematic projects always leave a cliffhanger of sorts. It is the formula that the original Silver age comics used to make you come back for more. It builds excitement in my opinion.
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Post by Batflunkie on Mar 8, 2021 12:10:26 GMT -5
I felt like the show set out to do what it wanted and that's great! I went into it with absolutely no expectations and was mildly entertained by it
It was by no means perfect but it was an admirable first attempt by Disney and Marvel to do a project of this magnitude
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2021 13:57:46 GMT -5
It was a solid story, and it moved me. As for the specifics: {Spoiler: Click to show} Many people online were going way beyond in guessing who would appear ( Magneto, Mephisto) . I'm glad they kept it simple. After all the speculation, I'm pretty happy with the ending... I didn't want an unresolved hit of another bad guy. I really liked the series, especially as it was the first true MCU outing for Disney. The story was good, the acting was very good, and it gave me and my girls something to look forward to every Friday night. However: No Mephisto. No Nightmare. No Mordo. No Dr. Strange. No multiverse. It certainly wasn't the show's obligation to offer more than it did, but what the fan community was generating was a lot more interesting than what we ultimately got. Generally, the series was powerful and answered the questions it posed with two key let-down exceptions: 1. What was up with the commercials? That never went anywhere. Especially as they seemed to be heavily suggesting the presence of Infinity Stones and made explicit reference to Hydra. Nothing came of any of this. 2. Is no one else bothered now by that scene where Vision found Agatha trying to leave town? If "It was Agatha All Along," then what the heck? Don't tell me it was a con to turn Vision against Wanda because that had already happened. This was the moment that got me and everyone else in the universe speculating something bigger than Agatha Harkness. I call foul. Also, I have to say that the end really really bothered me. Yes, I teared up, but not for the right reason. While Wanda and Vision are having their touching goodbye that is meaningless since the audience knows White Vision now carries the other Vision's memories, those poor kids are upstairs, slowly distintegrating ALONE and having no idea why. I'm relieved at least that they seem to be what Wanda is obsessed with in the final post-credits scene, but it was still totally unacceptable to me as a parent. And really, if Agatha can walk around town with Wanda's powers affecting her, and if Monica can launch off into space with powers generated by Wanda, why couldn't the twins be allowed to continue to exist? It was too important a point to be swept away so quickly, and I don't accept that they weren't "real" either since they clearly had thoughts, feelings, and consciousnesses outside of Wanda's direct control. I'm a tiny bit disappointed that Pietro/Ralph's appearance ended up being a glorified cameo/red herring/fan service. I mean, it was funny and clever, but I wish there had been more to his appearance than simply making him the doppleganger of the Fox Studios Quicksilver. I have mixed feelings on this. There really wasn't going to be an answer that would satisfy everyone since Wanda's brother in Age of Ultron clearly wasn't this guy, and rewriting and having Wanda accept that wouldn't have been genuine. It was a kind nod to the fans, at least. But it certainly did tease something bigger, especially with Wanda set to appear in the upcoming Doctor Strange film that deals with the multi-verse. While there was so much we couldn't possibly predict about this show, I was certain we'd get some hint of the X-Men's place in the MCU by the close, and they simply did not go there. Did they promise it? No. But Pietro's presence certainly teased it. One would think that a big old witch battle would have drawn the attention of the Sorceror Supreme or the guy who is out hunting magic users. I'll raise you one. If the X-Men are already out there somewhere in the MCU, Cerebro didn't detect the massive mutant phenomenon occurring in Westview? Another criticism I have of what was generally a solid series: I adore Monica, but her role in this series was entirely unnecessary. The few moments of change she affected in the plot would have come to pass anyway, and both her motivation for wanting to get into the Hex and her relationship with Wanda at the end seemed forced. This was an extended Captain Marvel 2 commercial; it had no meaningful place in this series. Did you catch the sound of her sons crying for help? Really, if it seems like I'm knocking the series, I'm not. I truly enjoyed it and see its quality. But when a show gets by mostly on mysteries and teasers, you're going to have some disappointed fans by the close. I didn't need it to end MY WAY (I'm not even sure what my way was), but I feel like it could have "cleaned up" better, answered all of its questions (Agatha at the outskirts of town), justified all of its decisions (Monica's role in this thing), and delivered on its implicit promises (the commercials and Fox Studios Pietro) a little more than it did. I'd give this series a solid B, which could become a B+ or a B- once I get more distance from it. But it easily could have been an A+ had it not fallen short in these aspects. |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Mar 8, 2021 17:05:39 GMT -5
I enjoyed the series. I just finished Englehart's Avengers run around the time the show debuted, so I was in full Vision-Scarlet Witch interest at the absolute perfect time. That definitely added to my enjoyment. Really liked how the series evolved from sitcom tributes to the climax, with the sitcom bits making sense in the end. There were a few nitpicks, like the Vision-Agnes scene shaxper mentioned, but overall I'm glad they went with something outside the box and relatively obscure, while making the overall theme (dealing with grief) something more than just a save the world or battle between good and evil story
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Post by shaxper on Mar 8, 2021 19:21:16 GMT -5
I'm glad they went with something outside the box and relatively obscure, while making the overall theme (dealing with grief) something more than just a save the world or battle between good and evil story Excellent point. In my opinion, the best aspect of nearly any great post-1970 Marvel comic is that "in-between scene" where creators take the time to explore the emotional ramifications of big moments that logically should affect a character moving forward. WandaVision is essentially one of those scenes stretched out across 9 episodes. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 20:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by Randle-El on Mar 8, 2021 23:45:08 GMT -5
I think the show ended on a strong note. I wasn't a big fan of how it started -- I think the first three episodes could have been condensed down into one hour-long minute episode that would have still hit all the same beats. But I think it answered enough questions and set up what it needed to and ended things in satisfying way. I think the ending is intriguing and leaves the door plenty open for Wanda to have a Dark Phoenix type of story later on, or at the very least be a very big wild card in the good/evil balance of things.
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Post by shaxper on Mar 9, 2021 10:43:17 GMT -5
Best part of the Pitch Meeting episode for WandaVision:
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